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  • Rusty
    Super Moderator
    • Jun 2004
    • 18953
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    They are an upgrade on totally knackered OE coils with cracked and brittle wiring

    Andy, I hope you get this sorted, as your setup should be very enjoyable, as me and Rustynut can confirm
    Cheers'en, AndyC
    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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    • andyg plym
      S2Forum Freak
      • Nov 2006
      • 4646
      • Country: England

      #17
      They are not causing any misfire problems

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      • UrS4boy
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Feb 2006
        • 11859
        • Country: Canada

        #18
        Originally posted by andyg plym
        They are not causing any misfire problems
        And just how do you know that at WOT?
        RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
        94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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        • andyg plym
          S2Forum Freak
          • Nov 2006
          • 4646
          • Country: England

          #19
          It's 1-3 the issues are not when it's fully under load, I've had enough misfires in my time to know that this isn't one. It's hesitant, I should have mentioned it happens more when fully warm.it will hold full boost all day long 4-6.
          The coils and harness are brand new last week, the coils and harness that I borrowed were exactly the same.
          I'm running a 1.7 bar boost setup, I've read many posts how these are good for over 500?

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          • Rusty
            Super Moderator
            • Jun 2004
            • 18953
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            Have you done the lambda test yet?
            Cheers'en, AndyC
            1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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            • andyg plym
              S2Forum Freak
              • Nov 2006
              • 4646
              • Country: England

              #21
              Unplugging it ? Not the new one didn't see any point as I'd tried it before on the old one

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              • UrS4boy
                S2Forum Obsessed
                • Feb 2006
                • 11859
                • Country: Canada

                #22
                Originally posted by andyg plym
                Unplugging it ? Not the new one didn't see any point as I'd tried it before on the old one
                Your response to the suggestions being offered to you is bound to lead to successful resolution of your problem.



                RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                • Rusty
                  Super Moderator
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 18953
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  Stop messing and unplug it
                  Cheers'en, AndyC
                  1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                  • andyg plym
                    S2Forum Freak
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 4646
                    • Country: England

                    #24
                    Originally posted by UrS4boy
                    Your response to the suggestions being offered to you is bound to lead to successful resolution of your problem.



                    What am I missing here ? If I've already had a lambda unplugged and it was no good then why would I do it again ? It struggled to idle last time

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                    • newsh
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 16226
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      The ECU will have adapted since.

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                      • andyg plym
                        S2Forum Freak
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 4646
                        • Country: England

                        #26
                        I have pulled the motor fuses out when installing the new lambda, it's no problem I can disconnect it just to see either way

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                        • newsh
                          S2Forum Obsessed
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 16226
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          So it's hesitating at WOT but only in gears 1, 2 and 3. Load is more in the higher gears so a misfire would be more likely to show there.

                          But what is a hesitation if not a misfire of some kind? Is it the knock control pulling timing?

                          Is ISV clean and operating nicely? That's the normal cause of lumpy idle and start up strangeness, that and the dirty MAF connector syndrome, in fact have you cleaned the MAF connector pins properly yet?

                          If it was hesitating coming back on throttle I think I'd be looking for a small boost leak.

                          Have you still got a stock ECU you could try?

                          Am I right in saying the ECU ignores the Lambda at WOT anyway? At part throttle it adapts so can compensate for leaks and worn components but at WOT it runs on the full throttle map. I think that's right.

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                          • UrS4boy
                            S2Forum Obsessed
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 11859
                            • Country: Canada

                            #28
                            Originally posted by newsh
                            Am I right in saying the ECU ignores the Lambda at WOT anyway? At part throttle it adapts so can compensate for leaks and worn components but at WOT it runs on the full throttle map. I think that's right.
                            I believe 99.9% that that is correct. Prj or Paul N. to confirm 100%.
                            RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                            94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                            • andyg plym
                              S2Forum Freak
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 4646
                              • Country: England

                              #29
                              Just been out and tried it with the lambda disconnected and it's even worse.
                              Very lumpy idle and still hesitates as before

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                              • S2central.net
                                Retired OG Mod
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 16590
                                • Country: Northern Ireland

                                #30
                                Yes - when load level (air mass) increases above a certain point (rpm related) then the ECU controls injection purely from the fuel map (with compensation for temperatures etc) and it stops trying to modulate mixture around the nominal AFR of 14.7
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