RS2 spec live map limiting factor?

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  • andy10v
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2009
    • 5996
    • Country: Scotland

    #1

    RS2 spec live map limiting factor?

    What is the limiting factor on an RS2 spec when live mapping?

    I am assuming turbo or injectors?

    If injectors is it worth fitting a set of 440s?

    Spec will be

    3B
    RS2 turbo
    RS2 style rep exhaust manifold
    3" downpipe/exhaust
    wagner intake manifold
    7A FPR (4 bar)
    FMIC
    RS2 injectors or bosch 440s
    rods
    sre clutch

    The car is currently running RS2 generic chip, I have 3" exhaust bits and wagner intake in the garage to fit over winter and then would like to get the car live mapped. I already have bosch 440s so dont need to buy them, I would just like to get the most/best from what I have.

    I think RS2 injectors max first, then the turbo coldside (hence why a billet RS2 turbo can flow more)

    Or hold off and get a billet RS2, or Alberts k26 hybrid looks good value for money (I am wary of it being less responsive though?)
    Last edited by andy10v; 15 December 2014, 13:23.
    Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

    Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
    Sold ABY-stock
  • mac2226
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jun 2008
    • 1289
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Who's going to live map your car Andy, been in Briantonks coupe with iroz rs2 billet he's running about 340bhp seems pull very well for that power i don't no what size injectors he's running? Best asking him . Alberts hybrid k26 turbos look very good for price and power with very little modifications to engine I must say if I hadn't gone for gt setup I would defiantly go k26 hybrid as well

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    • andy10v
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Mar 2009
      • 5996
      • Country: Scotland

      #3
      Ves sport (local to me) or Automark (few hundred miles away) (I cant get an answer out of PRJ).

      Tonks maxxed his RS2 injectors with the iroz billet rs2, there is more in the turbo.

      The only thing I am unsure of about Albert's is the modified turbine wheel, has it been back cut or clipped for more flow at high rpm? If so that will have an effect at lower flow levels.
      Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

      Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
      Sold ABY-stock

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      • Tonks4x4
        Retired OG Mod
        • Nov 2005
        • 3062
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Yes running RS2 injectors maxed to 99.8 duty cycle.
        I have a set of 1000cc EV injectors to fit and water meth to be used only as a safety.
        Will be getting round to getting it sorted and mapped in the new year.


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        • mac2226
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Jun 2008
          • 1289
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          1000cc that's what I'm running on my gt35 planning on another turbo Brian

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          • LHD_Kid
            S2Forum Possessed
            • May 2006
            • 3695
            • Home: England Current: Belgium

            #6
            I thought I had read somewhere that PRJ would not be mapping any more 3B cars?
            Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird Turbo....undergoing major changes.....
            S2 Coupe... bit easier off the line...
            '03 ZX12-R daily hack.... lots of nice bolt ons...

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            • Rusty
              Super Moderator
              • Jun 2004
              • 18953
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              If you're getting a live map then injectors, rods and clutch are all against you. If you're sending £500 on a map then I'd have to suggest swapping the turbo, as there are plenty of safe RS2 maps about.

              One thing you should do is convert to ABY ignition and ECU by swapping the ECU plug pins etc.
              Cheers'en, AndyC
              1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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              • andy10v
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Mar 2009
                • 5996
                • Country: Scotland

                #8
                Originally posted by LHD_Kid
                I thought I had read somewhere that PRJ would not be mapping any more 3B cars?
                He told Kit he was not mapping them anymore.

                I could swap to COP if he was coming over though.
                Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                Sold ABY-stock

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                • andy10v
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 5996
                  • Country: Scotland

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rusty
                  If you're getting a live map then injectors, rods and clutch are all against you. If you're sending £500 on a map then I'd have to suggest swapping the turbo, as there are plenty of safe RS2 maps about.

                  One thing you should do is convert to ABY ignition and ECU by swapping the ECU plug pins etc.
                  Woops, I have fitted rods, will have an SRE clutch fitted before the live map.
                  Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                  Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                  Sold ABY-stock

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                  • andy10v
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 5996
                    • Country: Scotland

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tonks4x4
                    Yes running RS2 injectors maxed to 99.8 duty cycle.
                    I have a set of 1000cc EV injectors to fit and water meth to be used only as a safety.
                    Will be getting round to getting it sorted and mapped in the new year.


                    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                    When you say water meth as a safety do you mean just to keep IAT down/stable as opposed to adding timing?
                    Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                    Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                    Sold ABY-stock

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                    • Tonks4x4
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 3062
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Yes Andy exactly that.


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                      • sal_s2
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 1287
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        did I read that right? rs2 injectors maxed out at 340bhp?

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                        • Rusty
                          Super Moderator
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 18953
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Mine's 360 and a bit on RS2 injectors...

                          Sure on an ABY 4 Bar FPR, you'll be OK for what an RS2 turbo can blow.

                          I'd say get a hybrid with bigger injectors and go for 400, like Dobbin did @ MRC last month.
                          Last edited by Rusty; 15 December 2014, 20:27.
                          Cheers'en, AndyC
                          1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                          • driftin jo
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 2222
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            I think you may want to edit that
                            Last edited by Rusty; 15 December 2014, 20:28.

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                            • rs2coupe
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 1782
                              • Home: Trinidad and Tobago Current: United States

                              #15
                              Originally posted by driftin jo
                              I think you may want to edit that
                              oops!
                              Cheers mis amigos,
                              _Anton

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