stroker with 92,8 crank.

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  • varia
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Mar 2009
    • 821
    • Current: United States

    #16
    Originally posted by caterpillar
    there was a 2,3 and 2,6 liter in T3 afrika/ mexico with 5 pot in the rear.. they may had 92,8 cranc in...
    The South African Volkswagen Microbus's had the 92.8mm stroke crankshafts.

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    • PRY4SNO
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Mar 2009
      • 767
      • Country: Canada

      #17
      Originally posted by caterpillar
      PRY4SNO@ where or what engine did you have the cranck from?? and 160 mm conrods.. link please?
      The crank was from a diesel van, as Varia noted. The block is an AAT.

      The rods are DM Forged (link), and the pistons are Wiseco.

      Originally posted by Thuppu
      Yes, but that is for the tall block.
      Correct. But mine was skimmed down to fit in a typ89.
      2013 Touareg TDI /// #farmenwagen
      1992 80q 20v /// Eventual AAN'd Winter Sled
      1990 Cq /// Project: Because Racecar

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      • rxl
        S2Forum Extremist
        • May 2012
        • 1913
        • Country: Germany

        #18
        dont want to build one on diesel block. so stock block will do..
        So i was wondering if the full balanced crank with flywheel/clutch and front pulley is needed??
        and another Thing is that the crank is new and it does not have any drrive for oil pump.
        can it be obtained at stealers?

        i bought the crank from privat Person and it costed my left lung.

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        • caterpillar
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Jun 2004
          • 2480

          #19
          was the 92,8 crank in AAT.. strange... are you deff sure that ?? use the meshurement to check it out ;i do have AAT also...and in familiealbum.. its 95,5 stroke... and 81,00 bore...2,5 liter ... you DO need a dieselblock to build a deasent stroker..
          the 92,8 cranc are a rare peace...( old stylich 5pot)
          the oildrive unit you can heat up with a deasent torch.... from a wrecked crank..

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          • Ficksy Heart
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            • Jan 2014
            • 58
            • Country: Germany

            #20
            you can also use the Eurospec crankshafts

            http://eurospecsport.com/products/co...rankshafts.htm

            http://eurospecsport.com/products/co...rankshafts.htm

            or you can buy a complete stroker kit and you have all the right parts for stock block.

            http://eurospecsport.com/products/co...r-kits-all.htm
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            • SA BOY
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              • Feb 2011
              • 310
              • Home: South Africa Current: United Kingdom

              #21
              Originally posted by caterpillar
              was the 92,8 crank in AAT.. strange... are you deff sure that ?? use the meshurement to check it out ;i do have AAT also...and in familiealbum.. its 95,5 stroke... and 81,00 bore...2,5 liter ... you DO need a dieselblock to build a deasent stroker..
              the 92,8 cranc are a rare peace...( old stylich 5pot)
              the oildrive unit you can heat up with a deasent torch.... from a wrecked crank..
              AAY is the South African engine code for the stroker 92.8 crank, VWSA only produced the 2.5 for a couple of years then went to 2.6 using the diesel 95.5 crank in their Caravelles and Microbuses.

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              • caterpillar
                S2Forum Fiend
                • Jun 2004
                • 2480

                #22
                http://eurospecsport.com/products/co...rankshafts.htm
                this one are more like the verson i DO have from a OETTINGER 2555ccm- with 94,5 stroke

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                • PRY4SNO
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 767
                  • Country: Canada

                  #23
                  Originally posted by caterpillar
                  was the 92,8 crank in AAT.. strange... are you deff sure that ??

                  I mixed and matched my set up to suit my needs.
                  2013 Touareg TDI /// #farmenwagen
                  1992 80q 20v /// Eventual AAN'd Winter Sled
                  1990 Cq /// Project: Because Racecar

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                  • rxl
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • May 2012
                    • 1913
                    • Country: Germany

                    #24
                    so what rpm can i go ?

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                    • caterpillar
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 2480

                      #25
                      steet tuned car.. you cant have over 25m/sek in pistonspeed..if the oilsystem can feed the oil... with the 92,8cranc the 158-160 conrods, the dieselblock( the better bottom end in block and the longer block,236mm and the thicker dieselheadbolts).. the hyd lifter are the weakest.. so safe 7500-8000 in short periode
                      drysump will give about 15% more hp,and with mek lifters.. may 9000 rpm

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                      • rxl
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • May 2012
                        • 1913
                        • Country: Germany

                        #26
                        im going for the ADU engine with the crank and 144 rods.

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                        • Cordoba16vt
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                          • Apr 2014
                          • 182
                          • Country: Bulgaria

                          #27
                          7.500 rpm max, with sorted valvetrain and lightweight hydraulic lifters... if going mechanical lifters you could go beyond 8.500 rpm

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                          • Quattronaut
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                            • May 2013
                            • 273
                            • Country: Germany

                            #28
                            Originally posted by caterpillar
                            drysump will give about 15% more hp,and with mek lifters.. may 9000 rpm
                            Drysump increases hp? 15% more? I´ve never heard that...

                            When using a stroker crank, especially when using the short 144mm rods, healthy rpm limit is around 7500, but limitted by piston speed. 7500rpm makes a bit more than 23m/s piston speed. I don´t know how upgrading the valvetrain should improve that. Especially, if made with light hydros- which are not an improvement anywhere, IMO. If you want to rev the stroker higher, lighten crank, rods and pistons. And take the longer rods to minimize friction losses and lateral force (tall block necessary). THEN, mechanical lifters can make sense.

                            Stroker cranks are for the torque-"BOOM" in lower rpms- lazy about changing gears, fast response, reduce consumption. Not for having a revmonster.

                            RXL, what turbo will be used?
                            Last edited by Quattronaut; 20 January 2015, 14:15.

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                            • Cordoba16vt
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                              • Apr 2014
                              • 182
                              • Country: Bulgaria

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Quattronaut
                              Drysump increases hp? 15% more? I´ve never heard that...

                              When using a diesel crank, especially when using the short 144mm rods, healthy rpm limit is around 7500, but limitted by piston speed. 7500rpm makes a bit more than 23m/s piston speed. I don´t know how upgrading the valvetrain should improve that. Especially, if made with light hydros- which are not an improvement anywhere, IMO. If you want to rev the diesel higher, lighten crank, rods and pistons. And take the longer rods to minimize friction losses and lateral force (tall block necessary). THEN, mechanical lifters can make sense.

                              Diesel cranks are for the torque-"BOOM" in lower rpms- lazy about changing gears, fast response, reduce consumption. Not for having a revmonster.

                              RXL, what turbo will be used?
                              We're talking short , 220mm block here, RXL mentioned a few times that he is using stock block and 92.8 mm crank , which is not diesel !, diesel cranck is 95.5 mm.

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                              • Quattronaut
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                                • May 2013
                                • 273
                                • Country: Germany

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Cordoba16vt
                                We're talking short , 220mm block here, RXL mentioned a few times that he is using stock block and 92.8 mm crank , which is not diesel !, diesel cranck is 95.5 mm.
                                I know he´s planning short block. That´s what makes it a bit less revvy.
                                I only called it "diesel" because I linked "stroker" with "diesel"...I´m used to from my project which is done with diesel crank sorry. Fixed it

                                But calling it "diesel" or "stroker" does not matter. Rev limit is the same.

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