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  • LHD_Kid
    S2Forum Possessed
    • May 2006
    • 3695
    • Home: England Current: Belgium

    #31
    Originally posted by Error404
    ONLY use Gates belts IMHO.
    The only problem with Gates belts is you have no idea when they were actually manufactured. The Continentals at least have that info printed on the belt...
    Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird Turbo....undergoing major changes.....
    S2 Coupe... bit easier off the line...
    '03 ZX12-R daily hack.... lots of nice bolt ons...

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    • Rusty
      Super Moderator
      • Jun 2004
      • 18953
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #32
      This was a Conti belt from GSF. There had been a chirp on startup a few times of late but with the car sitting outside and the weather being wet and cold, this wasn't a surprise. The belt was tight.

      Looks like the guide that stops the PAS belt wobbling about guided the broken belt to its final destination...
      Cheers'en, AndyC
      1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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      • Rusty
        Super Moderator
        • Jun 2004
        • 18953
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #33
        So took a brave pill and got the head off today...

        10 bent valves and some massaged pistons but nothing too serious. Head will be heading to JP for inspection and repair and I'll have 10 new ornaments to wow and amaze guests with.

        The impact also sheared the cam pulley key, so a replacement pulley & new cambelt will be going on and I'll check the billet lower pulley at the same time.

        Not what I had planned this month but there we go...
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        Cheers'en, AndyC
        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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        • Error404
          Super Moderator
          • Mar 2007
          • 19789
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #34
          D'oh! Well at least it came apart easy
          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
          Indigo ABY coupé
          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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          • simon20vq
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Dec 2010
            • 1379
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #35
            Sorry to hear/see the above Andy. At least no bore damage which is a small consolation.

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            • Cordoba16vt
              S2Forum Enthusiast
              • Apr 2014
              • 182
              • Country: Bulgaria

              #36
              Respect for the clean engine!

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              • Rusty
                Super Moderator
                • Jun 2004
                • 18953
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #37
                I cleaned it to check over; it was pretty sooty before

                Plugs are a nice colour so I'm sure it's running properlyish.

                Yes, Alex, it came apart so easily, I'm surprised it stayed together All stainless fasteners, new gaskets and I torqued everything to the factory manual values.
                Cheers'en, AndyC
                1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                • Colesy
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 2980
                  • Country: England

                  #38
                  Sorry to see this Andy, hope the repairs aren't too costly.

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                  • 220bhp
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 2578
                    • Home: United Kingdom

                    #39
                    Good luck with the repairs. I look forword to hearing its all fixed, so you can enjoy the car again. it was tuff luck after all your hard work.

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                    • 4WDrifter
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 1251
                      • Country: Northern Ireland

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Rusty
                      So was out for a run today and while going through a village at a sedate speed, there was a loud sound like gravel hitting the car and then the engine cutout...

                      On inspection, the alternator belt had disintegrated and oddly the car wouldn't start.

                      Long and short, looks like the alternator belt has caused the cambelt to jump... have to wait and see when I get it apart but just waiting for a flat bed to get me the 3 miles home now...
                      Andy, going back to the side of the road, I know it's impossible to know, but do you think the damage would have been less had you not tried to restart the car after it cut out. I know from personal experience that our instinct is to try to start the engine but maybe if we just said to ourselves " right a belt has gone, let's get recovered and get to a garage to get a proper inspection " perhaps no bent valves? Or does it all happen in the blink of an eye?
                      Gutted for you anyway.
                      1996 S2 ABY Coupe silver
                      2003 S3 8L dolphin grey
                      2014 RS4 B8 prism silver

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                      • UrS4boy
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 11859
                        • Country: Canada

                        #41
                        I think Andy's damage happened as soon as the broken alternator belt got tangled in with the cam belt and the cam belt skipped 10 teeth. A few rotations later, the 10 intake valves were bent. It was over before he pulled to the side of the road. The restarting attempt, while retrospectively ill-advised, probably added no further damage. It was done.

                        At least when the cam belt breaks the valve train doesn't rotate anymore and only two or four intake valves get piston-whipped and bent. Not much difference in the amount of labour to fix both scenarios though. Head has to come off.
                        RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                        94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                        • Rusty
                          Super Moderator
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 18953
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #42
                          Valves were all bent in a fraction of a second. As soon as the timing belt slipped, they were gone.

                          There was no sign that the cambelt had been affected (the hole I found was small and obscured from view) and the chances of an alternator belt affecting the cambelt are tiny, so it didn't cross my mind. Sat at the side of the road in the middle of nowhere on a cold & rainy day, anyone would try to get back to warm cup of tea...

                          Basically, it was a freak occurance and there was not anything I could have done. To say anything else is just rubbing salt in the wound.
                          Last edited by Rusty; 2 April 2016, 16:27.
                          Cheers'en, AndyC
                          1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                          • Error404
                            Super Moderator
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 19789
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #43
                            I blame Jesus
                            Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                            Indigo ABY coupé
                            Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                            • diesel des
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 3896

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Error404
                              I blame Jesus
                              Amen brother.

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                              • A80Avant
                                S2Forum Obsessed
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 10873
                                • Country: Greece

                                #45
                                Ok I have been hearing noises when the engine is cold so need to make sure the tension is correct

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