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  • Error404
    Super Moderator
    • Mar 2007
    • 19789
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #31
    Originally posted by _ShurikeN
    I have heard an opinion that oilpump dies very quickly without that black antifriction coating on the backplate. Not personal experience. It was just about audi 5-pot motors.

    ...if I ever have to chose a better oilpump out of several ones withoout measuring tools, I look at the condition of this black coating at first.
    Interesting. I was curious as to what that coating was for. I thought it was just black oxide at first, but why bother? Anti-friction coating makes sense.
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    • newsh
      S2Forum Obsessed
      • Aug 2003
      • 16226
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #32
      There's a pressure relief valve under one of the head bolts which can be damaged if the bolt is too long. Problems usually occur only with head studs though. The stud in that position has to be shortened.

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      • curamrdan
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        • Sep 2014
        • 91
        • Country: Czech Republic

        #33
        Originally posted by newsh
        There's a pressure relief valve under one of the head bolts which can be damaged if the bolt is too long. Problems usually occur only with head studs though. The stud in that position has to be shortened.
        Im sure there is not oil valve under headbolt thread in block. There is some check valve under gauge pressure sensor or pressure switch.
        Can you be even more specific, maybe some picture will be the best description.
        Engine is assebled ready to pickup, so i need your info soon as possible. Thanks.


        EDIT2: removed prevousion, you think this right?
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        So its not head but main bearing stud problem. Im using also non factory bolts here, generic M10 12.9 inbus bolts. Unsure lenght, i think maximum in few mm difference. Who know how much is there space from OEM to contact with valve...
        Damn, oilpan is back&sealed on engine...
        Last edited by curamrdan; 23 September 2016, 23:57.

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        • newsh
          S2Forum Obsessed
          • Aug 2003
          • 16226
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #34
          Stroker oil pump failure

          Sorry bud, dodgy memory these days, yes it's the main bearing stud.
          I don't know if this could cause your problem, I've just read about it on here in the past.

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          • andy10v
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Mar 2009
            • 5996
            • Country: Scotland

            #35
            No. 3 main cap stud that can crush the oil check valve if it is too long

            Info from Dave towards the bottom of the page

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            • bivw
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              • Mar 2011
              • 72
              • Country: Netherlands

              #36
              Im building a AEL stroker engine
              It has no oil check valve
              On 3 main cap stud [emoji848]

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              • AndyP
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Feb 2004
                • 6049
                • Country: England

                #37
                Originally posted by bivw
                Im building a AEL stroker engine
                It has no oil check valve
                On 3 main cap stud [emoji848]
                It should have, all the AEL's I've stripped have had one. There are two different types, there's some pictures here:-

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                • bivw
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                  • Mar 2011
                  • 72
                  • Country: Netherlands

                  #38
                  Aaaaah yes that one whit a seal came out ...
                  Could it be convert to a 12tooth one ?

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                  • hammer
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • May 2008
                    • 242
                    • Country: Austria

                    #39
                    Tdi oilpump is the same, i also use it without any problems!
                    Only issue is quality of the new pumps😒. A friend also had a problem with it....

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                    • bivw
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                      • Mar 2011
                      • 72
                      • Country: Netherlands

                      #40
                      Stroker oil pump failure

                      I have let my oilpump gears and backplate of the pump camshafts,crank,mainbearings
                      Coated whit a DFL1 coat

                      After reading a lot about it i decide to give it a try
                      Don't now yet iff it works but got a good feeling about it
                      Got a new (old style oem oilpump whit black back plate)

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