MRC Tuning no longer tuning 5 Cyl 20v Turbo engines... who to go to?

[robo]

Useful post! So you're the only one that can do it "properly" but don't because you can make more money on other things or did I read it wrong!

Probably takes allot longer to tune our engines and tools are expensive as well.
I had few deterrent maps done and still my favorite one is PRJ's

[FRANK NITTI]

Dialynx Swindow mate ...All day long

[LHD_Kid]

Dialynx Swindow mate ...All day long

Really ??????????????????????

[montyrs2]

Dialynx Swindow mate ...All day long

Thats a nope from me. Took my RS2 there many years ago as it had a boost problem and they couldn't have been less interested. After spending my money on diagnosis they said the ECU was shot so I bought a new one and guess what no difference. They had no compassion for the fact i'd just blown over a grand on an ECU which I couldn't return.

Their only response was bring it back and we'll take another look. Turns out it was a duff DV!

Wouldn't get them to put air in my tyres.

[Simons]

Consider Ecumaster with the pnp harness as well. Works with the Auditrigger and is a lot more solid all around than VEMS IME.

the only reason for doing this is nostalgia if anything.

Also you need to change the idle valve if you use the Ecu master, and I think like you, the best, easy and cheap standalone ecu option.

But I'm a nostalgic guy and I still use motronic maybe I will send my s2 to your garage for a live mapping with water/meth aquamist injection, but first I need time to fit it

[vti2]

Motronic is old but running a streetcar without knock control is a big risk.
@prj if you want to give the Information out i would take it.

[prj]

Useful post! So you're the only one that can do it "properly" but don't because you can make more money on other things or did I read it wrong!

Precisely. Basically if they can't map it to run right without the MAF, then I wouldn't bother, as you're better off investing the money into a standalone, as you'll just blow through these (now) super expensive MAF's.

The problem is these cars are super old, and there are almost always hardware problems with them.
Also, people who own these cars usually don't have a lot of money and want everything done super cheap.
Don't get me wrong, there are exceptions to everything.

When you do this for a living, it becomes a money issue.

The only solution is to get tools into the hands of others.

[SteveH]

Thats a nope from me. Took my RS2 there many years ago as it had a boost problem and they couldn't have been less interested. After spending my money on diagnosis they said the ECU was shot so I bought a new one and guess what no difference. They had no compassion for the fact i'd just blown over a grand on an ECU which I couldn't return.

Their only response was bring it back and we'll take another look. Turns out it was a duff DV!

Wouldn't get them to put air in my tyres.

I would agree with that. Keith likes taking folk's money. I went there for a service when I first got my S2. Keith diagnosed a knackered wastegate. Guess what, he had new items at £750 which he tried hard to sell to me. Turns out it was the intercooler O ring and the car is still running fine 12 years later with the same wastegate. If you have a Ur and like throwing lots of money away, go see them!

[robo]

Also, people who own these cars usually don't have a lot of money and want everything done super cheap.

You could always name your price.

[Rikki Kitto]

Just to give peeps any idea of prices (hope Mark doesn't mind the info going out there) Automark had my car all day running late until 6:45pm, customed mapped it live on road fitted new WGFV, lambda and spark plugs at less than £600 Time to accept it chaps he is the only realistic man for the job left in the UK who really cares about helping out and not emptying your pockets

[prj]

Just to give peeps any idea of prices (hope Mark doesn't mind the info going out there) Automark had my car all day running late until 6:45pm, customed mapped it live on road fitted new WGFV, lambda and spark plugs at less than £600 Time to accept it chaps he is the only realistic man for the job left in the UK who really cares about helping out and not emptying your pockets

Add the cost of a single new MAF to that and you are at a grand, might as well have fitted a standalone. Then it turns out the car was mapped on a half-shot MAF and with a new MAF the fueling is totally off, have to remap it again...

Waste of time.

Gone through this so many times, that's why some years ago I started used the SD conversion on all custom mapped cars.

You could always name your price.

Please don't take it the wrong way. But I just don't really want to deal with the hassle anymore.
M2.3.2 is a pretty special ECU for me, because that is where it all began, but realistically for this to even pay for itself - I need to make an easy to use solution at a low pricepoint, while recycling as much of my current development as possible. Basically so that everyone who wants to run Motronic just fits this board into the ECU, and it lives there.

[Rikki Kitto]

Surely the MAF can be checked before hand for correct tolerences if it turns out it's no good then other options can be explored but to just assume everyone should update to newer types of ECU is not really an option for most.

[vti2]

Te Problem ist to have a plug&play Solution to run The motronic mafless.
prj don't have The Time to do. this, so the only way ist to Go standalone.

[prj]

Surely the MAF can be checked before hand for correct tolerences if it turns out it's no good then other options can be explored but to just assume everyone should update to newer types of ECU is not really an option for most.

Believe or not, but it can't unless you have a giant flowbench and a known good MAF. And that doesn't help it any since they tend to go pop after RS2 power.

This thread has motivated me to work on plug and play solution again...
I am drawing the board right now... the problem is always to finish these projects.

[twoqu]

Yes! The HFM5 replacement would be a nice legacy to leave us with.
That should solve the MAF issues fror the next 20 years.