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  • Habib
    S2Forum Addict
    • Aug 2003
    • 316
    • Home: United Kingdom Current: Italy

    #1

    bumper

    Im stuck without a bumper. the standard s2 bumper wont fit because my intercooler is a too thick.
    I need to know if the rs2 bumper 'comes out more' than the s2?
  • martinjs
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Jul 2003
    • 3205
    • Country: England

    #2
    Habib, i'll be able to tell you in a few days, when the rest of my pipework arrives i'll try my RS2 bumper when i fit the i/c. What size is your i/c, mines 600x300x75 (total length is 800mm) the S2 bumper will just fit if the i/c is in exactly the right place.

    HTH

    martin

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    • Habib
      S2Forum Addict
      • Aug 2003
      • 316
      • Home: United Kingdom Current: Italy

      #3
      Originally posted by martinjs
      Habib, i'll be able to tell you in a few days, when the rest of my pipework arrives i'll try my RS2 bumper when i fit the i/c. What size is your i/c, mines 600x300x75 (total length is 800mm) the S2 bumper will just fit if the i/c is in exactly the right place.

      HTH

      martin
      670x350x80
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      • martinjs
        S2Forum Possessed
        • Jul 2003
        • 3205
        • Country: England

        #4
        Habib, whats the distance between your intercooler and your alternator/crank pulley? the gap between mine is about an inch, much more and i doubt even the RS2 bumper will fit.
        which crossmember are you going to use?

        theres a couple of pics of mine in this thread



        martin

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        • Habib
          S2Forum Addict
          • Aug 2003
          • 316
          • Home: United Kingdom Current: Italy

          #5
          Its already on with the 3B crossmember. I have split the crossmember in half to save space.
          Im going to ribbet the intercooler to the crossmember.

          Its the thickness of the intercooler that is causing problem.

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          • martinjs
            S2Forum Possessed
            • Jul 2003
            • 3205
            • Country: England

            #6
            Yeah you need to get it as far back as possible without fouling the pulleys of course.
            I think you'll have to make a custom crossmember to do this.
            I did try mine with a x-member from a 9020v (without the pipe in it) and it was way too far forward.
            There is only just enough room for a 300mm hich i/c, and yours is 350 so you may have to put a cutout in the top of the bumper.

            Take your i/c off and stand it behind your bumper and you'll see what i mean.

            martin

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            • Stick Insect
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Dec 2003
              • 2338
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              Originally posted by Habib
              670x350x80
              Habib, the 350mm measurement is the problem. Martin's S2 bumper had about 4-5mm spare space, it fitted perfectly as if it was made for it. The top of the Martin's I/c had mounting lugs welded on. if yours was side mounted it may just clear!
              you would need 50mm more height in a bumpeer I feel that Martins suggestion of physically putting the Intercooler inside the bumper (on the floor) would show how much space you would need.

              You would need a way of accomodating the Snub mount on a cross member.

              You could end up with a front bumper that looks like a Rover P6 V8 which is OK.

              HTH

              David

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              • Habib
                S2Forum Addict
                • Aug 2003
                • 316
                • Home: United Kingdom Current: Italy

                #8
                Originally posted by Stick Insect
                Habib, the 350mm measurement is the problem. Martin's S2 bumper had about 4-5mm spare space, it fitted perfectly as if it was made for it. The top of the Martin's I/c had mounting lugs welded on. if yours was side mounted it may just clear!
                you would need 50mm more height in a bumpeer I feel that Martins suggestion of physically putting the Intercooler inside the bumper (on the floor) would show how much space you would need.

                You would need a way of accomodating the Snub mount on a cross member.

                You could end up with a front bumper that looks like a Rover P6 V8 which is OK.

                HTH

                David
                I think its the 80mm measurement that is the problem, because im using standard crossmember the intercooler comes too far out. the 350mm measurement is fine with the bumper.

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                • Josh-stateside
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 741
                  • Country: United States

                  #9
                  Hey guys I actually posted a possible thought about this situation:

                  I was thinking of going with a custom intercooler way later down the road but my plan was to use the s4 snub mount bracket which would lower the snub to a postion where it could be used with the audi 90 v6 lower radiator support. Potentially being able to use the center radiator support too. This is all hypothetical thoughts... But I do know of one audi 90 with a s4 aan swap that does use the s4 snub mount bracket and the audi 90 lower v6 radiator support.



                  Another cool pic I found is of an imsa snub mount. I like the idea alot. I like the fact that a bracket could be welded on to the intercooler.



                  HAve fun guys with custom options

                  Cheers
                  Josh



                  you guys might want to check irrys site: http://www.irry.com/
                  I chose not to choose life: I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who need reasons when you've got quattro?

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                  • Stick Insect
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 2338
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    [QUOTE=Josh-stateside]


                    I like the fact that a bracket could be welded on to the intercooler.

                    HAve fun guys with custom options

                    Cheers
                    Josh

                    Hi Josh,

                    Habib's Intercooler is aluminium and if a snub bracket was welded to it the first time the engine moved it would rip a hole in the intercooler. I feel the IMSA snub mount would be onto a very substantial cross member.

                    It's a shame Habib isn't closer I would enjoy the challenge!

                    The Irry site is wonderful. the Scandinavians do some great conversions ( especially considering the tax cost of cars and parts)

                    There is probably a good conversion somewhere.

                    David

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