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  • dubmeister
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jun 2007
    • 522
    • Country: Wales

    #46
    Originally posted by Jamo

    To echo what Jamo said i used to work on a rolling road, turbos used to reach in excess of 1500 deg c. and that was with an exhaust system fitted!! you could light a fag just by holding it close. As shown in Exhibit 3:


    Why do you think that there is heat shielding round the turbo? Ive seen plenty of N/A cars with cracks in the manifolds that have caused engine fires and on an S2 where does the fuel pipe run?
    Its not funny when a car goes up in front of you.
    The advice is given to warn the guy of the dangers of fitting the pipe, not to take the piss. If he wants to do it then thats up to him and the consequences are his. just carry a big fire extinguisher.
    Imagine you were going to buy a car and saw welding like that on a sill or structural point? would you say it wasnt pretty but it does the job??

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    • rj scotty
      S2Forum Fiend
      • May 2006
      • 2195
      • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

      #47
      No you would not but when its your car and you have slaved away in the garage for many an hour it's your god given right to fit to your car.
      Don't discourage this sort of thing let it roll and give the rest of us a good laugh

      The man who did not make a mistake did not do anything !

      cheers

      rich
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      "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
      BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

      1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
      1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
      2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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      • rj scotty
        S2Forum Fiend
        • May 2006
        • 2195
        • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

        #48
        By the way

        I have a welder and an ego but have not made myself a down pipe.

        cheers

        rich
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        "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
        BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

        1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
        1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
        2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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        • Le S2 Audi
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Jul 2009
          • 3805
          • Home: Scotland Current: England

          #49
          Hi David,

          I am not in a position to criticise your workmanship, as I could not even do what you have done....

          I think some of the first posts maybe a bit harsh... and may have riled you... They would me..

          BUT they do seem to be trying to also be helpful and are trying to help you avoid a major calamity.. and major future outlay IF it all goes T1T's up...

          It seems folly to me, to post pics etc up and then to ignore the advice that is forth coming from people in the know...

          I would suggest that you try and fit your 1st attempt and see where, or if it needs further adjustment... Then us it as a template for your next one....

          We all have to learn from our mistakes - but sometimes its useful to learn from other peoples too so you don't make the same mistake they did....

          Just my penny's worth....

          As I Said It's Far Better Than Anything I could Do!!!

          Good Luck.....

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          New S2 - S8 & RS2 -RS6 Keyrings

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          • K Simmonds
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Dec 2007
            • 7633
            • Country: Wales

            #50
            Fair play for having a go, though you really should grind all those welds right back then practice with the wire feed and gas settings on a couple of off cuts till your getting decent penetration at the very least. Those welds will crack very quickly I'm afraid.

            The design of the pipe itself doesn't look bad though.
            1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
            1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
            1994 MTM RS2.
            1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
            2000 B5 TQS.

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            • Fat Audi 80
              Super Moderator
              • Jan 2004
              • 10547
              • Country: England

              #51
              That looks unsafe. FULL STOP!

              People are genuinely trying to help and be constructive. I don't see a lot of piss taking here. It could have been a LOT harsher.

              If your bloody car catches fire on a fast moving A road and you have a head on collision with another car, it won't be just your ego and car you have to worry about....

              Practise or get a pro to weld it up.

              Cheers,

              Steve.
              The Perfectionist
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              Audi Class Concours winner Stoner Park 2014, ADI Concours D'Elegance Class Winner 2008, Runner up 2014. Winner, S2Forum Show'n'Shine Billing 2006 & 2008.

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              • Lupo911
                S2Forum Addict
                • Apr 2005
                • 312
                • Country: Germany

                #52
                ...
                Attached Files

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                • pixsaudisex2
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 3110

                  #53
                  Pretty welds can literally fall apart if there's little penetration. An ugly weld with good penetration is infinitely better. ...

                  An coming from the ugly stables i think i should stick up for it....
                  if it was fitted and it never leaked and the welds were strong ( how can you tell on a photo..) But yeh this is one of them debates...

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                  • Puglife
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 731
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #54
                    The slag and spatter show that the filler wire isnt fusing its simply reacting and being chucked off.... Theres that much on there that you can't tell if theres any penetration (heat marks around the welds). I'm more concerned about the people saying try it, he's gone to the effort so might as well test it.....


                    For stainless welding you need stainless wire and a trimix gas. Gasless (or ordinary with co2/argon gas) mig wire wont cut it....
                    Jay - pug_life85@hotmail.com

                    1986 Audi UR quattro - WORK IN PROGRESS
                    1981 VW Mk1 Golf - "20v Jim, but not as we know it!"

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                    • Lupo911
                      S2Forum Addict
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 312
                      • Country: Germany

                      #55
                      come on Guys, you cant be serius to put this in a Car...
                      this is just wrong

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                      • Fat Audi 80
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 10547
                        • Country: England

                        #56
                        Also, where are you going to fit the lambda probe? (Pic 6)
                        The Perfectionist
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                        Audi Class Concours winner Stoner Park 2014, ADI Concours D'Elegance Class Winner 2008, Runner up 2014. Winner, S2Forum Show'n'Shine Billing 2006 & 2008.

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                        • dest
                          S2Forum Freak
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 4287
                          • Country: England

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Jamo
                          I remember this from a forum rolling day I use to post on

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                          • Jonnybravo
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 2051
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #58
                            So typical xe/let, nylon fuel feed taken from the rail burst and obviously lit straight up. I only use braided lines on the high pressure side of nitrous installs and the nylon line is just on the low pressure sides.

                            As there is no fuel pressure with the ign off didn't someone think to take the keys out ?

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                            • WabTheKing
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • May 2004
                              • 2567
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #59
                              if you fit this to your car you need to see a doctor.

                              even if it doesnt set fire to the car and it doesnt fall to pieces think about the exhaust gases going into the cabin????????

                              are you really that ****** off with life???

                              not even funny.

                              quick test - throw it on the floor and watch those "welds" break.

                              im all for trying to do things yourself but you wouldnt perform a heart bypass on your self???? some things you have to do the propper way

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                              • smiler
                                S2Forum Addict
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 435
                                • Country: Sweden

                                #60
                                /Thomas
                                RS2-94

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