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  • Rusty
    Super Moderator
    • Jun 2004
    • 18953
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    EGT Probe Thread Size

    Is there a standard thread size for egt probes? I'm looking to get a bung welded into the DP.
    Cheers'en, AndyC
    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss
  • Jonnybravo
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Aug 2008
    • 2051
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    I believe my fitting was 1/8 npt.

    Just checked and the one in the manifold and downpipe are both 1/8npt

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    • driftin jo
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Sep 2007
      • 2222
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      The short answer is no.
      some are NPT some are BSP and some are metric fine, you need to buy one then sort it out, usually they have for sale a weld in or screw in bung to go with it when you buy them.

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      • driftin jo
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Sep 2007
        • 2222
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        There are also some clamp on ones, that are just like a hose clamp, a bit **** IMHO.

        See here. http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...dex&cPath=5_22

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        • G60Rallye
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Dec 2006
          • 1321
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          Mine is 1/8" NPT. I have mine in a lambda boss using an adapter that you can get off ebay.

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          • Rusty
            Super Moderator
            • Jun 2004
            • 18953
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            So I could just get a 3rd Lambda boss welded on...
            Cheers'en, AndyC
            1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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            • Jonnybravo
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Aug 2008
              • 2051
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              Just get a weld on 1/8 npt fitting with a bung, I found sensors in that size ranging from £20 to £100+, seems a very common size that people use.

              We used 4 of them in a mates manifold and got the sensors and logger from a aviation parts supplier, was only about £250 for everything and was a very impressive bit of kit if not ofcourse a little on the large side.

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              • Rusty
                Super Moderator
                • Jun 2004
                • 18953
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Another question - zeitronix recommend that the EGT probe is before the turbo. I don't really want to go drilling and tapping my new EM, so do people bother with this or just put it in the DP and lower the upper limit that's acceptable? Obviously, expanding the exhaust gas through the turbine will cool it somewhat...
                Cheers'en, AndyC
                1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                • Jonnybravo
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 2051
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  For prolonged use I wouldn't run it before the turbo, mine was done that way but I've moved it to the downpipe as I don't want a probe breaking and going through my turbo ! If your using ALS or LC then the probes can easily break I'm told, even if your not I still wouldn't risk it, depends how much money your rolling around in I guess

                  I have always been curious of the readings from the downpipe but I'd imagine anything over 850 and you might want to be getting concerned, I've been in a few vehicles that have reached close that though and they haven't had any troubles as far as I'm aware.

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                  • K Simmonds
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 7633
                    • Country: Wales

                    #10
                    Likewise, I didn't want to fit mine before the turbo, the idea of the tip coming adrift and going through the turbine put me off. I welded in a boss as close to the turbo as poss, figured it would still warn me of impending doom. I used a brake line union as it was the right thread.
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                    • Jonas_R
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 3781
                      • Country: Denmark

                      #11
                      I'm running mine just after the turbo and think the "rule" is to subtract 100 degrees celcius.
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                      • prj
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 6308
                        • Country: Estonia

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jonas_R
                        I'm running mine just after the turbo and think the "rule" is to subtract 100 degrees celcius.
                        That is optimistic. Realistic is 150.

                        Yes, 850-860 is the max you should be seeing, and that with a very long pull.
                        5th from 3000 to 7000 rpm for example.
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                        • A80Avant
                          S2Forum Obsessed
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 10873
                          • Country: Greece

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Rusty
                          Another question - zeitronix recommend that the EGT probe is before the turbo. I don't really want to go drilling and tapping my new EM, so do people bother with this or just put it in the DP and lower the upper limit that's acceptable? Obviously, expanding the exhaust gas through the turbine will cool it somewhat...

                          we have drilled and tapped the SQ EM, at the collector. no problems!

                          I would go to the solution of before the turbo if i had to redo it and wouldnt mind drilling the EM.

                          i dont use ALS, and i have never heard of a before turbo break of an EGT sensor which was a good quality one. I use the thick one that vems has and it stopped working once. I had to replace it and once taken out, it was looking pretty good. No signs of chipping due to temps.

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                          • AndyP
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 6049
                            • Country: England

                            #14
                            Originally posted by prj
                            That is optimistic. Realistic is 150.

                            Yes, 850-860 is the max you should be seeing, and that with a very long pull.
                            5th from 3000 to 7000 rpm for example.
                            Just to confirm, 850-860°C with the probe after the turbo?
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                            • Jonnybravo
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 2051
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Originally posted by A80Avant
                              we have drilled and tapped the SQ EM, at the collector. no problems!

                              I would go to the solution of before the turbo if i had to redo it and wouldnt mind drilling the EM.

                              i dont use ALS, and i have never heard of a before turbo break of an EGT sensor which was a good quality one. I use the thick one that vems has and it stopped working once. I had to replace it and once taken out, it was looking pretty good. No signs of chipping due to temps.
                              I know people that have had them fail due to probably ALS use, luckily they were situated in the downpipe not the manifold. They were not cheap probes either but that depends what you class as cheap ?

                              Certainly interesting info, just not sure I'd fancy keeping one before the turbo for any length of time but as you say you you don't use ALS that could well be why you haven't had a problem.

                              Mine is situated in the elbow that connects the manifold to the turbo, its used when the engine goes on the dyno but I have decided to keep one fitted at all times but chose the downpipe just to be on the safe side !

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