Who wants Plasma Gauge faces form racing24de

[s2_southwest]

maybe they have gone on their summer hols bo

[Azman]

NO news is bad news on this at the moment, Any contact Bo?

[s2_southwest]

Bo, any update mate?

[s2_bo]

Some bad and good news

Hi Guys,
Sorry for delaying in reply.

Ill do some explaining.

Things have not been going very well with our project at racing24de.
They contacted me early last week saying the following:



Hallo,
danke für die Mail.
Leider kommen wir derzeit aus verschiedenen Gründen nicht zu einem endgültigen Ergebnis, eine fertige Plasma Tachoscheibe wie in unseren Mails besprochen.
Aus diesem Grund möchte ich ihnen die Anzahlung die sie bereits geleistet zurück überweisen.

Bitte teilen sie mir ihre Bankverbindung mit.

Sobald wir die Plasma Tachoscheiben fertig haben würde ich mich bei ihnen melden und sie können dann sofern noch Interesse besteht diesen Artikel in der gewünschten Stückzahl erwerben.

MfG Racing24.de

Mario Hartwig





I’m at work and haven’t got time to translate it all but it basically means –

Hello,
Unfortunately, at this time we can’t complete your request and are not able to supply you with a completed plasma dial product.
We would therefore like to refund you your deposit.
I will be in contact as soon as the Plasma dials are ready and if you are still interested then we can fulfill your request.


After dealing with the disappointment especially considering the amount of time that has gone in to this I emailed them again asking why this had happened as it was sounding so promising only the week before.

They replied again:


Hallo,
danke für die schnelle Rückmeldung.
Wir wechseln derzeit den Hersteller für unsere Plasma Tachoscheiben und weiterhin sind die speziellen Inverter nicht fertig.
Um sicherzugehen und nicht den Eindruck entstehen zu lassen das wir das Geld nehmen und dann nichts dafür zu tun wollten wir den Betrag erstmal erstatten, da ich auch absolut keinen Zeitraum für die Fertigstellung nennen kann.

MfG Racing24.de
Mario Hartwig



In other words….
We are changing our manufacture for our plasma dials and the special inverters for the dial switching mechanism are still not finished.


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So to wrap that chapter up they are refunding me my deposit as it may take them a while until the gauges are finished and they don’t want to make it seem like they are just taking the money.

But! And it’s a big But.

On the same day I hunted around and found another manufacture for plasma dials.
I emailed them explaining what had happened regarding racing24de and they replied with in the hour saying:

Vielen Dank für Ihre Anfrage.

Selbstverständlich sind Sonderanfertigungen möglich.

Bitte senden Sie uns Ihre Layouts und wir werden dann prüfen, ob dies umsetzbar wäre.

MfG

T&W GbR


They are more than happy to help us out with this project.
I have since exchanged about 7 emails with them regarding the designs/ layout switching.

It all looks and sounds very promising, especially as they do not require a minimum of 50 sets to be made up.

I have emailed them the designs that racing24de came up with (previously posted in the thread). They confirmed that they could manufacture them to the spec that I supplied.
However the next day they said that the people that produce gauges also make/ used to make the gauges for racing24de and recognized the design. Therefore they could only produce these if they had permission from the original designers.



They emailed them to get permissions on there designs but have not heard back form them yet.

-I just remembered that the people im dealing with now also speak English so here is there email:

Hello,

We have talked to the factory which produce the el gauges for us.
The problem is, that they told us your design is already owned by racing24 and without their agreement they will not produce the el. gauges.

But we have asked racing24 if we can use that design, now we are waitung for an answer.

If racing24 will not allow to use their design, we have to change the design a little bit or make a new design.
Creating a new design will not cost annything extra.

The switching between the different scales should be no problem.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen/ with kind regards
Ihr T&W Team

I replied to this and received the following email a day or so later:

Hello,

Sorry, we didn't get an answer yet, if we can use the design of racing24.de.

That's why we please you to make a proposal for some modifications.
By the way, it is also possible to use that design from the Audi RS6 or something else.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen/ Best Regards
Ihr T&W Team

I have since emailed them asking for samples of the RS6 design and for suggestions on how we could change the current design so that it would not inflict with copyright laws.
Will let you know once they reply.


So to sum it all up, - The gauges are still coming, they may be slightly different than first agreed on by everyone (I will double check this on the forum), they should hopefully be cheaper and hopefully it woant be to much longer.

Thanks everyone for your continued interest.
All the best.

Bo.

P.s. I fully understand if you have got pissed of by waiting so long for now. And I would not think less of anyone if they pulled out of this group buy. As it has taken almost 10 months longer than originally planed 

[madS2]

just keep up the hard work mate im sure we'll see them soon enough.

[Ski]

see'ing as so many have signed up for this after the descision was made to go ahead with the purchase, i no longer feel as guilty to pull out.

soo, if it dosnt cause a hassle, I would like to pull out of this group buy due to a change in priority's.

Should this cause a inconveniance plz let me know.

[s2_bo]

Not a problem Ski,
as i no longer need to order 50 sets - so once its all ready ill just order as many as requested at that time.

Thanks for letting me know.

Bo

[Azman]

Thanks for all the hard work Bo. Keep us posted won't you.

Cheers

Aaron

[newsh]

Well done Bo, you've really put some effort into this. I did wonder if we really needed the switching and if it was causing the delay but I guess it will all come together eventually.

[AUDI9020V]

erm wot can say but fooookin hell bummer,so wot are the new ones like then,will they look different.iam still in for a set.no matter how long,at the rate iam going i might need two sets-as ive just got a 10v 90 now too.john

[s2_bo]

Im hoping they will be exactly the same, but that is debatable as im still waiting for confirmation on the current design and layout.

Will keep everyone posted as usual.

Ta.

[QuattroFever]

Damn bo,
thanks for being so persistent, it's easy to get f**kd off with constant set backs and start giving up.

I hope we can still have the wee S2 logo!!

If they are offering a redesign. Might not be everyones cup of tea but anyone fancy redline-less rpm dial? or is it just me actin all cerazy

[s2_bo]

Great news!!

Ok!
I received a email from T&W on Friday evening with the new designs/layout and info on productions time.

I am at work again so have to make it quick.

The new Design is almost identical but the switching between mp/h and km/h is a little different. This can be seen in the image.
You can completely switch off the km/h so that it is hidden from the dial.

The layout is as follows: and shows the dial when not illuminated, when illuminated and when illuminated with km/h displayed

TW-AUDI1.JPG


They are also offering the following: Alloy/Steel gauge Rings for the Audi 80/S2 @ £17
They can also do us a special price on the Carbon fiber dash surrounds if there is a interest in this.


Also there is two versions of the AUX gauge faces.
The first version is screwed on and the later version is Glued on.
I am presuming that everyone would like the screwed on version. But please let me know ASAP if this is not the case. This depends on the current VDO Aux gauges in your car.


Also you'll be please to know that price is down form £110 for both sets to £80.00 Delivered to your door (with in the UK) as T&W don't charge as much to redesigns the new Gauges
So there is no reason not to buy the Gauge rings

Thee best news however is that production time is only 3 weeks so i am hoping to finally have these here at the end of September.

Thanks for sticking with me everyone. It really is not long now.

[Chris5044]

yey

[Treacle]

I'm new to the forum and just spotted this - look really cool

Count me in for main and aux gauges and stainless surrounds