Audio setup advice

[Rusty]

An Alpine HU won't disappoint. I ran an Alpine MD player alongside my Kenwood and it was great.

Speakers wise, I had some Focals that were very good and am currently running JBL Power speakers as they could handle the amps. Sub wise, I used to have some Alpine Bass ZR 10", they were excellent and I kicked myself for selling them on Ebay for £25 the pair

[Jamo]

Bass Junkies? *spit* *spit*

http://www.thebassbin.co.uk/

http://www.caraudiodirect.com/

[Jamo]

Strange speaker choices there, what's your budget for them? In the dash you can actually get 5.25 if you are prepared to trim the hole.

Else get the MB Quart ones, they fit and sound good.


Speaker makes to consider are Boston, Focal, DLS, Dynaudio, Rainbow

They sound far better than the norm.

Go to my old hang out of www.talkaudio.co.uk and look in the for sale section for stuff.

[Sonic]

Strange speaker choices there, what's your budget for them?

Post me some links then!

There is no budget im sticking to, whatever works that i consider well priced

[Rusty]

Focal with Alpine HU is a good choice IMO. Have a look at my doors when you're doen the morrow. They were origially harbouring 4" and 6.5" speakers, sounded pretty decent. Going for 1 or 2 6.5" in the doors and teh MBs up top. Don't want wires in the rear of the car as I'm unlikely to have door cards etc.

The other option is what Bibby did, some 8"s in the doors. Those Amps will power any 8" speaker you care to throw at them (to a point). You need dedicated midbass tho, subs are far too large for the doors.

Don't forget you'll need a 10" sub, if you can find 2 small capacity 10s then they'll also fit as I design the box at about 30 litres so you can have a ported small enclosure or a sealed for the same sub, the Bass ZRs were totally happy in that volume and they're 10 Y/O now.

As I said, a JL DVC 10" will get the full beans out the amp and shouldn't be to much for the 3" stinger port in the box. Can adjust the port length based on the new speaker properties or just leave it as is, should be about right at 30-35Hz porting frequency.

[Fat Audi 80]

Andy,

I am not sure either of those 4" speaker will plug and play. They seem to be type with a larger basket and not the "removeable tab" type, with a tab at each corner. If you are wanting to the keep the OEM grilles up front then I would double check their size and construction.

If you are going to hack at the dash, then don't worry. Just a thought.

HTH

Cheers,

Steve.

[Sonic]

I am not sure either of those 4" speaker will plug and play. They seem to be type with a larger basket and not the "removeable tab" type, with a tab at each corner. If you are wanting to the keep the OEM grilles up front then I would double check their size and construction.

If you are going to hack at the dash, then don't worry. Just a thought.

Me?! Hack the dash?!!!

Cheers for the heads up. Maybe i should just get some MB Quart components - but they have a pretty low RMS rating which the amp would annihilate.

[Rusty]

You should be OK with a lower rating as you just turn the amp right down. The issues come when you turn up the volume... you'll hear the speakers distorting before they fry. The problem with going for small front sepakers is that it's the front speakers that you hear, with 4" you'll have a poor front soundstage, much better to get some 6.5" in there with tweeters in teh dash and the 4" in the rear for the higher mid-range fill in. I used to show people with 6x9s my system and turn off the rear 6x9s so it was just a sub and some 6.5"s. These was very little difference when sat in the front seats.

[vonbeck]

i have the focal chorus 800 range in my living room for home cinema and the polyglass range in my car i have 6x10 690`s on my rear shelf and the 130v1 on the dash straight swap, with the tweeters in the doors

http://www.focal-fr.com/

all i can say is these are the doggies danglies my opinion any way

[Fat Audi 80]

You should be OK with a lower rating as you just turn the amp right down. The issues come when you turn up the volume... you'll hear the speakers distorting before they fry. The problem with going for small front sepakers is that it's the front speakers that you hear, with 4" you'll have a poor front soundstage, much better to get some 6.5" in there with tweeters in teh dash and the 4" in the rear for the higher mid-range fill in. I used to show people with 6x9s my system and turn off the rear 6x9s so it was just a sub and some 6.5"s. These was very little difference when sat in the front seats.

I tend to disagree. I only have 4" in the front of my car, and only use the rear speakers at low level as I don't want the sound stage pulled towards the rear of the car. My crossover is set at the right level on the amp so you can run a pretty impressive volume through the front speakers without distortion. The bass from the 10" sub makes up the majority of the volume anyway.

Unless you are entering sound offs, I don't think you will be able to tell that much difference.

Its horses for courses and depends on the amount of original car you want to cut and the amount of fabrication you are prepared to do to mount larger speakers...

Cheers,

Steve.

[Jamo]

You should be OK with a lower rating as you just turn the amp right down. The issues come when you turn up the volume... you'll hear the speakers distorting before they fry. The problem with going for small front sepakers is that it's the front speakers that you hear, with 4" you'll have a poor front soundstage, much better to get some 6.5" in there with tweeters in teh dash and the 4" in the rear for the higher mid-range fill in. I used to show people with 6x9s my system and turn off the rear 6x9s so it was just a sub and some 6.5"s. These was very little difference when sat in the front seats.

Don't agree with that at all, the 4" in the front is capped off at 125 Hz are good enough for high fill.

The problem with the S2 the rear speakers aren't big enough for midbass reinforcement from a sub box.

I really need to get my 8 speaker dynaudio front setup back in the avant.

I want to put 8" dynaudio in the rear door as well hmmmm other things to do 1st though.

[Rusty]

As with many things audio is a personal preference...

[Fat Audi 80]

....and you are wrong.

[Rusty]

Well done so much for diplomacy...

[borderS2]

Fronts

I'm with Fat Audi 80. The fronts are most important.

I have a spreadsheet for calculating vented bass cabs volume, vent size and length. Not very user friendly and I haven't used it in a long time. If you want i'd need some detail spec on the driver.

Dane