S2 3b Tie rods the same as other standard 80?

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  • s2star
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    • Jul 2017
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    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    S2 3b Tie rods the same as other standard 80?

    Looking at changing the right inner tie rod on my s2 3b I ordered one online last year and only just got time to get it fitted and get the steering sorted on the car.

    Reason I'm changing it is because the wheel was out of line with steering dead straight. I changed the ball joint as that was worn.

    The new arm compared to the old is alot shorter even with me adjusting to maximum adjustment.
    Seller listing stated it is compatible with most Audi 80s including s2 so now I'm all confused.

    Can anyone advice if the arms are the same as standard 80s or s2 are intact different?

  • Tractor Dave
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    • Dec 2017
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    #2
    I'm not certain about 3b but ABY rods are identical to late 80. Have you got LHD rods? They are different.
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    • s2star
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      • Jul 2017
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      #3
      Tractor Dave just checked the order and they are infact LHD


      Any idea who supplies new tie rods in the UK

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      • Tractor Dave
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        • Dec 2017
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        #4
        I can't see any new ones for sale in the UK right now. Audi Tradition have them but sit down first.
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        • s2star
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          • Jul 2017
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          #5
          Originally posted by Tractor Dave
          I can't see any new ones for sale in the UK right now. Audi Tradition have them but sit down first.
          Can't be that bad surely lol

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          • Tractor Dave
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            • Dec 2017
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            #6
            Originally posted by s2star

            Can't be that bad surely lol
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            • s2star
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              • steve briance
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                • Aug 2014
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                #8
                I might be missing something but, why do you need to change the arm to correct the steering wheel position?

                Depending how far out it is, you might bring it back by taking the steering wheel off and turning it on its splines. Or, you might just need a simple alignment session. The first thing they do is centre the steering wheel and correct the track rod arm adjusters to make the road wheels point the right way. If your ball joint is recently new it sounds like your adjusters are not going to be seized which is a bonus.

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                • kinaputt
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                  • Jan 2012
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                  #9
                  Febi Bilstein makes individual parts for the rods.

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                  • 90quattrocoupe
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                    • Nov 2003
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                    #10
                    The differences between the early and late rear tie rods.

                    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1676...1548443935513/
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                    • 90quattrocoupe
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                      • Nov 2003
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                      #11
                      If you only have bad boots you can replace them. You can also clean and add grease to old tie rods and ball joints, when you replace the boots.

                      https://www.facebook.com/groups/1676...01427529947613

                      https://www.facebook.com/groups/1676...01578243265875

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                      Last edited by 90quattrocoupe; 16 January 2021, 17:33.
                      They can have my car when they pry my cold dead fingers from the steering wheel.

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                      • Tractor Dave
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                        • Dec 2017
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                        #12
                        If you get stuck I think I have a good spare.
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                        • Bowie69
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                          • Nov 2013
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                          #13
                          Why do the tie rods need replacing? Bushes? Worn internal threads?

                          Normal practice would be to just replace the ball join, or the adjusters (with some lovely ones from Greg on here, with a 17mm hex as opposed to the OE 14mm).

                          Unless the bush is mullered at the rack end, or the internal threads stripped, there is no reason to replace the track rod, imho. Even then, it would not be hard to make a more solid bush to replace the rubber in the original rods.

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                          • newsh
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                            • Aug 2003
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                            #14
                            Alex made me some inner bushes.

                            I think powerflex make them too?

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                            • steve briance
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                              • Aug 2014
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Bowie69
                              Why do the tie rods need replacing? Bushes? Worn internal threads?

                              Normal practice would be to just replace the ball join, or the adjusters (with some lovely ones from Greg on here, with a 17mm hex as opposed to the OE 14mm).

                              Unless the bush is mullered at the rack end, or the internal threads stripped, there is no reason to replace the track rod, imho. Even then, it would not be hard to make a more solid bush to replace the rubber in the original rods.
                              My thoughts exactly. Unless there is some other problem not shared, the OP could be chasing a solution to a problem that is elsewhere For me, a good 4 wheel alignment/moving the steering wheel on its splines if miles out would solve it.

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