Powersteering spraying out of crosshead bolt

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  • Chris5044
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Feb 2005
    • 1663
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Powersteering spraying out of crosshead bolt

    Hey guys, the s2 broke down again and it seems powersteering fluid was spraying everywhere from this position in the picture with engine on. I seem to remember this part seaping before, so i replaced the o ring here. The o rings were from ebay. Is there an issue with this? Or a specialist part? Or something else. The engine seemed to be running hot. Around 115 degrees. But that could be a different issue. Incase its heating that seal too much.

    What do you guys think or know?
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  • Bowie69
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Nov 2013
    • 2675
    • Country: England

    #2
    Overheating is unrelated to the leak, which is cured with new o-ring and refit normally -are you sure it isn't the connection above it? There are two copper/aluminium crush washers either side of the fitting and they should be replaced if you disturb it or they may leak. Equally, that hose is not facory, it has a steel hydraulic fitting clamped to it, is that leaking?

    115C and you are in the territory of damaging the engine to the point of requiring a rebuild -is the fan working? Has it got coolant? How do you know it is 115C?

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    • K Simmonds
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Dec 2007
      • 7627
      • Country: Wales

      #3
      Yeah, the overheating is totally unrelated, 115C is too high for normal running temperature, you want to between 90 and 100 most of the time and normally bang on 90 on the gauge if your just cruising around. Check your cooling system is functioning correctly as mentioned above

      Though I did briefly see 130C! on the oil temp gauge in my 3B twice, how hot that actually was I obviously don't know as the gauges are only so accurate, I do know I was very worried and total shut things down to low rpm's straight away. The engine was fine however, which shows how strong these motor's are but I wouldn't have fancied it's chance for any more stick than I gave it.

      Anyway, with the turbo the under bonnet temps can get extremally high so everything is designed to cope.

      If it's not one of those other joints leaking then it's the cross head plug, which will require a new O-ring kit as well as crush washers, and the correct socket to change. You can use a very large flat head screw driver but risk chewing the head.

      Give the area a good clean then check often to see where the oil is actually coming from, you may even find you have more than one leak.
      1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
      1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
      1994 MTM RS2.
      1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
      2000 B5 TQS.

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      • Bowie69
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Nov 2013
        • 2675
        • Country: England

        #4
        Originally posted by K Simmonds

        Though I did briefly see 130C! on the oil temp gauge in my 3B
        Quite common if thrashing my 7A, or cruising at 100. Certainly Castle Combe when I first had it was well up there after 6 laps.

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        • K Simmonds
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Dec 2007
          • 7627
          • Country: Wales

          #5
          Originally posted by Bowie69

          Quite common if thrashing my 7A, or cruising at 100. Certainly Castle Combe when I first had it was well up there after 6 laps.
          Glad to know that's actually pretty normal then.
          1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
          1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
          1994 MTM RS2.
          1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
          2000 B5 TQS.

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          • Bowie69
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Nov 2013
            • 2675
            • Country: England

            #6
            Yep, nothing to worry about, I just change my oil & filter every ~3K to make sure.

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            • Rikki Kitto
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Feb 2010
              • 6276
              • Country: England

              #7
              Originally posted by Chris5044
              Hey guys, the s2 broke down again and it seems powersteering fluid was spraying everywhere from this position in the picture with engine on. I seem to remember this part seaping before, so i replaced the o ring here. The o rings were from ebay. Is there an issue with this? Or a specialist part? Or something else. The engine seemed to be running hot. Around 115 degrees. But that could be a different issue. Incase its heating that seal too much.

              What do you guys think or know?
              Sure when I did mine I tried generic o rings and they looked the same but all leaked you need the the seal kit from TPS

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              • Chris5044
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Feb 2005
                • 1663
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Originally posted by Rikki Kitto

                Sure when I did mine I tried generic o rings and they looked the same but all leaked you need the the seal kit from TPS
                Hey Rikki!! I think you are bang on!! its spraying from this location. What is TPS? can you place a link here and reveal what that is please?

                Thank you.

                To the others yes I thrash the car when warm a little. Will have to inspect further on the cooling. it reads on the guage to the 1st of the 2 dots on the temp guage. But that is max temp and comes about by driving hard, or when stuck in slow traffic. Yes the fan comes on.

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                • jade
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 1811
                  • Home: New Zealand Current: Spain

                  #9
                  If you want your power steering pump to be problem free.... best to buy the kit with the cap and O rings as replacing the O rings only in my experience does not last long before leaking again
                  RS 2 580HP

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                  • psiconauta911
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 613
                    • Country: Portugal

                    #10
                    I think the temp. you´re getting is normal and due to a replacement MFTS that tend to read higher on the instrument, mine gets up there often as you described and the first sped fan comes on for a few seconds, all normal, with the original MFTS that reading was always lower, it isn´t or wasn´t acurate. If the fan comes on it´s all working as it should!

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                    • Rikki Kitto
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 6276
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      TPS trade parts service It's the parts arm of VW but you need a trade account to use them now

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                      • B5NUT
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Sep 2021
                        • 1071
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rikki Kitto
                        TPS trade parts service It's the parts arm of VW but you need a trade account to use them now
                        If you need anything from TPS let me know as I have an account with them, and I'll send it with your Tradition order

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                        • Rikki Kitto
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 6276
                          • Country: England

                          #13
                          Cheers bud I'll keep this in mind but most stuff seems to be NLA with them nowadays Didn't even have a cam cover gasket kit

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                          • K Simmonds
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 7627
                            • Country: Wales

                            #14
                            I have a nasty feeling those seal kit's are NLA, I've got a TPS account and can vaguely recall trying to order one with no success sometime ago, worth trying though.
                            1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                            1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                            1994 MTM RS2.
                            1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                            2000 B5 TQS.

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                            • B5NUT
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Sep 2021
                              • 1071
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              What is the part number of the seal kit. I cannot find them listed in Etka.

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