4x108 to 5x112 conversion: B4 80 Quattro ABC V6 Sedan - What discs?

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  • M2ki
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Aug 2015
    • 547
    • Country: Estonia

    #16
    It is possible to use T4 hubs for 82mm rear, but needs maching on the "shaft" part.

    1989 Audi 80 Quattro
    1994 Audi 80 Quattro Competition

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    • K Simmonds
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Dec 2007
      • 7627
      • Country: Wales

      #17
      Don't see why not, as long as the spline pattern is also correct.

      Though obviously it'll change the offset of the wheels due to the extra thickness of the wheel bolt flange, though I guess that could also be machined down, just means more work.
      1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
      1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
      1994 MTM RS2.
      1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
      2000 B5 TQS.

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      • M2ki
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Aug 2015
        • 547
        • Country: Estonia

        #18
        Splines are the same. Shaft part must be machined to make a step for the bearing and cut shorther at the same time.
        1989 Audi 80 Quattro
        1994 Audi 80 Quattro Competition

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        • pfi
          S2Forum Addict
          • Jun 2016
          • 274
          • Country: Norway

          #19
          As known the rear B5 A4Q hubs gives ~10 mm more offset,

          Any 82mm front hubs that gives more offset than std s2 hubs ?

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          • _ShurikeN
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Mar 2010
            • 733
            • Country: Russian Federation

            #20
            S2 front hubs and C4Quattro rears have the largest offset possible (speaking of bolt-on and near bolt-on applications).

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            • pfi
              S2Forum Addict
              • Jun 2016
              • 274
              • Country: Norway

              #21
              Originally posted by _ShurikeN
              S2 front hubs and C4Quattro rears have the largest offset possible (speaking of bolt-on and near bolt-on applications).
              ok, thnx, but, any non "bolt-on and near bolt-on" alternatives ?
              ( Got a friend who has access to a lathe ... )

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              • TRS4
                S2Forum Fanatic
                • Jul 2021
                • 55
                • Country: Australia

                #22
                Ok so continuing to figure it out.

                Have managed to get the rear all sorted and mounted up.

                Issue is with the front as I am now running into issues with the front discs. I appear to have a single piston front caliper (Not G60 from what I've managed to read online) and the discs I have on hand are 286mm don't seem to fit.

                I looked into S2 OEM discs which are 276mm but 25mm thick and it appears the max thickness that I can use require 22mm.

                Anyone come across this and have any suggestions on a disc that is 276x22

                Appreciate everyone's patience with my said novice ability here.

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                • Nuvo
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 3825

                  #23
                  The V6 should have G60 twin pot brakes using 276x25mm as standard equipment.
                  The G54 single pots can use either 256x22 or 280x22mm discs depending on the model year and brake carriers.

                  Personally, I'd recommend sourcing the correct G60 calipers and carriers first and order the OE fitment 276x25 discs.

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                  • newsh
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 16226
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Nuvo
                    The V6 should have G60 twin pot brakes using 276x25mm as standard equipment.
                    The G54 single pots can use either 256x22 or 280x22mm discs depending on the model year and brake carriers.

                    Personally, I'd recommend sourcing the correct G60 calipers and carriers first and order the OE fitment 276x25 discs.
                    Agreed
                    Should be some cheap G60s around with all the folks switching to Brembos

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                    • TRS4
                      S2Forum Fanatic
                      • Jul 2021
                      • 55
                      • Country: Australia

                      #25
                      Thanks but my car appears to have come standard with the single pot calipers. Australian delivered car.

                      im struggling to find 280mmx22mm discs as suggested. But if anyone knows the part numbers for said rotors, that would really!

                      Alternatively, if anyone can point me in the direction of cheap G60 calipers and carriers? That would be great.

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                      • ak139
                        S2Forum Hobbyist
                        • Mar 2020
                        • 13
                        • Country: Estonia

                        #26
                        2.8 v6 - g60
                        2.6 v6 - g54

                        8a0 615 301 e

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                        • TRS4
                          S2Forum Fanatic
                          • Jul 2021
                          • 55
                          • Country: Australia

                          #27
                          Originally posted by ak139
                          2.8 v6 - g60
                          2.6 v6 - g54

                          8a0 615 301 e
                          thanks - can you confirm which disc size that part number is for?

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                          • ak139
                            S2Forum Hobbyist
                            • Mar 2020
                            • 13
                            • Country: Estonia

                            #28
                            Originally posted by TRS4

                            thanks - can you confirm which disc size that part number is for?
                            280x22

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                            • TRS4
                              S2Forum Fanatic
                              • Jul 2021
                              • 55
                              • Country: Australia

                              #29
                              Originally posted by ak139

                              280x22
                              thanks but that appears to be 4x108 not 5x112 that I require.

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                              • TekTac
                                S2Forum Tinkerer
                                • Jan 2020
                                • 6
                                • Country: Finland

                                #30
                                Redrilling the bolt pattern to the brake discs is very common (at least in Audi community). I've never done it but it's an easy job with a drill press. 4x108 to 5x112 requires 1 existing hole to be slotted + 4 new ones drilled. Here's a picture that I found.
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                                1989 90 quattro NM

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