S2 B4 (avant/sedan & RS2) RARB options

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  • lind4hl
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jul 2008
    • 2465
    • Country: Sweden

    #31
    okay then im having wrong

    One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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    • madpugger
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Sep 2007
      • 1901
      • Country: Scotland

      #32
      Originally posted by lind4hl
      okay then im having wrong
      I don't have the family album in front of me to confirm though...

      Le Mans 2012
      Nurburgring 700
      1995 S2 Avant

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      • lind4hl
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Jul 2008
        • 2465
        • Country: Sweden

        #33
        i have

        can i help you in some sort of way?

        One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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        • madpugger
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Sep 2007
          • 1901
          • Country: Scotland

          #34
          I am not sure! Yeah check those numbers against the RS4, I think standard RS4 = 'sport' a4/s4q. Also, if you check the bush sizes for the a4/s4q that may tell us something...

          Le Mans 2012
          Nurburgring 700
          1995 S2 Avant

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          • lind4hl
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Jul 2008
            • 2465
            • Country: Sweden

            #35
            rs4 avant:

            OEM 15mm 8D0 511 409
            reinforced 17mm has no part number

            s4 avant

            OEM 8A0 511 409 G no diameter on this one
            OEM 8D0 511 409 is the sport chassis model, no diameter on these one either...( same as oem rs4 15mm)

            One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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            • S2central.net
              Retired OG Mod
              • Jul 2003
              • 16590
              • Country: Northern Ireland

              #36
              Yes the B5 S4 Avant has same 12mm RARB as B4 including S2 - spot that 8A0 prefix on the part number...
              Paul Nugent
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              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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              • madpugger
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Sep 2007
                • 1901
                • Country: Scotland

                #37
                Originally posted by S2central.net
                Yes the B5 S4 Avant has same 12mm RARB as B4 including S2 - spot that 8A0 prefix on the part number...
                Yeah that makes sense.

                I really hope that 17mm one is sixty quid

                Le Mans 2012
                Nurburgring 700
                1995 S2 Avant

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                • Skull
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 3506
                  • Country: Slovenia

                  #38
                  Originally posted by madpugger
                  Less, too thick then Oversteer.
                  How much is too thick then?
                  Audi Quattro WR

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                  • ChrisG
                    S2Forum Fanatic
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 68

                    #39
                    I hope it's only £60 as well....

                    I'm off to the dealer later , I hope, to order the 17mms and a few more odds 'n ends.

                    Interesting about the S4 Avant rear bar size, I currently have a 2001 RS4 rear bar that I got from a guy who had fitted H&R bars -- thinking it was 17mms.....and it isn't . To the best of my ability( with calipers) they both measure the same. The RS4 is exactly the same size as this B5 factory fit ( but at the time of purchsing in 1999 the 1.8 quattro T Sport was billed as 'tweaked suspension from GmbH ' etc etc so perhaps it really was......

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                    • S2central.net
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 16590
                      • Country: Northern Ireland

                      #40
                      Retail price on the 15mm S4/RS4 bar is really cheap - just confirmed today at £53 retail in the UK (plus VAT).

                      The Quattro GMBH 17mm bar is still price unknown... apparently when TPS order those bits from them they only get invoiced on delivery for some bizarre reason - so you dont know how much the thing is until you have bought it - makes for a more random shopping experience than I am willing to risk. The 15mm bar looks to me like great value and a useful upgrade for whats going to be a daily duties car - not a flat out / trackday special.

                      Maybe some of the lads on RS246 have ponied up for the exotic 17mm bar - I'm not registered there - maybe someone else can ask the Q ?
                      Paul Nugent
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                      Administrator http://S2forum.com

                      1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                      2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                      2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                      Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                      There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                      • s2avant
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 2426

                        #41
                        I now run a 21mm H&R rear bar and that is probably as thick as I would want to go. It was another leap over the 19mm Neuspeed I was using.

                        I can get the support brackets made. They are laser cut replicas of my original neuspeed brackets. Price would depend on quantities being made.

                        Ben
                        the best intentions are fraught with disappointment - gil grissom

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                        • S2central.net
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 16590
                          • Country: Northern Ireland

                          #42
                          Originally posted by ChrisG
                          I hope it's only £60 as well....

                          I'm off to the dealer later , I hope, to order the 17mms and a few more odds 'n ends.

                          Interesting about the S4 Avant rear bar size, I currently have a 2001 RS4 rear bar that I got from a guy who had fitted H&R bars -- thinking it was 17mms.....and it isn't . To the best of my ability( with calipers) they both measure the same. The RS4 is exactly the same size as this B5 factory fit ( but at the time of purchsing in 1999 the 1.8 quattro T Sport was billed as 'tweaked suspension from GmbH ' etc etc so perhaps it really was......
                          To clarify again - Yes - the B5 RS4 normally shipped with the same 15mm bar as B5-S4 and all other 'sports' B5 quattro models. There was an OPTION for a 17mm bar on the B5-RS4 from quattro gmbh - part number not listed - price unknown.
                          Paul Nugent
                          Webmaster http://S2central.net
                          Administrator http://S2forum.com

                          1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                          2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                          2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                          Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                          There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                          • S2central.net
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 16590
                            • Country: Northern Ireland

                            #43
                            Originally posted by s2avant
                            I now run a 21mm H&R rear bar and that is probably as thick as I would want to go. It was another leap over the 19mm Neuspeed I was using.

                            I can get the support brackets made. They are laser cut replicas of my original neuspeed brackets. Price would depend on quantities being made.

                            Ben
                            21mm - OMG - that must be a beast of a thing... How carefully need you drive with that much stiffness at the rear (easy tiger) ?
                            Paul Nugent
                            Webmaster http://S2central.net
                            Administrator http://S2forum.com

                            1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                            2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                            2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                            Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                            There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                            • madpugger
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 1901
                              • Country: Scotland

                              #44
                              Sounds like a plan Paul. I will ask my TPS guy to try get a price, he seemed to think they would email a price to him if I had a chassis number to go with.

                              With regards to the question about how thick is too thick, I cannot say as I still have the stock bar, and it depends on what tyres you have and how you like the car to feel, what suspension you have etc. I currently have 235/45/18 on front and 225 on rear, with H&Rs and stock ARBs. It will not kick the **** out so I will fit the RS2 front bar I have and a 15mm rear to try, at £53 its worth the try.

                              Le Mans 2012
                              Nurburgring 700
                              1995 S2 Avant

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                              • madpugger
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 1901
                                • Country: Scotland

                                #45
                                Ben, can you give us a price for 10 brackets? Maybe we can work from there.

                                Also, the size is not everything, the length from the bend to the link mount has a lot to do with it too, so compare purely on size would be incorrect.

                                Just re read that last sentence - Size doesn't matter missus!

                                Le Mans 2012
                                Nurburgring 700
                                1995 S2 Avant

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