Ball Joint Extenders.....thoughts?

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  • Kliminati456
    S2Forum Addict
    • Mar 2010
    • 215
    • Country: United States

    #1

    Ball Joint Extenders.....thoughts?

    Cruising thief bay and found these....

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-LOWER-...item20b64a3c66


    Seems like they would fit Audi's with 19mm ball joints and they can make 17mm by request. Probably help keep things in proper alignment spec for lowered vehicles. Anyone using these or have opinions on them?
    Justin
    1990 Audi Coupe Quattro= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46309
    1991 Audi 200 20VTQA= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54410
    1987 Audi Coupe GT
  • Error404
    Super Moderator
    • Mar 2007
    • 19789
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Stiglet on here used these on his CQ... in conclusion i think he said they worked in principal but were not really man enough for the load from the weight of the coupe, and also IIRC they fouled the brake disc, even with OEM twin pots. A bit of a bodge job of resetting the roll centre.

    My plan is to swap the forged wishbones Left to right and invert them, so the ball joint fits on the top of the wishbones not underneath, should yield about an extra 15mm on the ball joints effective position. Yet to be tested......
    Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
    Indigo ABY coupé
    Imola B6 S4 Avant

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    • Rusty
      Super Moderator
      • Jun 2004
      • 18953
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Good idea but can be tight clearance when fitting and I'm not convinced about safety. Search for threads by Anton and Stiglet.
      Cheers'en, AndyC
      1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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      • TimE-J
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Jul 2009
        • 1292
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        I have these exact ones on my mk2 golf and they are good quality and do help with bringing the lower arms back to level.
        96 S2 aby Coupe. Rebuild Project
        96 mk3 golf tdi daily.

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        • repo
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Dec 2004
          • 893
          • Country: Finland

          #5
          You need to extend track rod as well, to avoid pump steer with this kind of mod.
          Everything less than 2 bar is considered to be naturally aspirated

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          • Kliminati456
            S2Forum Addict
            • Mar 2010
            • 215
            • Country: United States

            #6
            hmm seems counter productive solving one issue and causing the others

            maybe not the right solution to the issue, there must be a better one?
            Justin
            1990 Audi Coupe Quattro= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46309
            1991 Audi 200 20VTQA= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54410
            1987 Audi Coupe GT

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            • repo
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Dec 2004
              • 893
              • Country: Finland

              #7
              No, this is proper way, You just need to extend the outer joint of the track rod the same length You extend the lower ball joint.

              Would there be demand for these? I could easily have them available. Would be a kit with two balljoint extenders and two track rod end kits with adjustable length to replace the original joint completely with a motorsport uniball.
              Everything less than 2 bar is considered to be naturally aspirated

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              • Mr.Crossfire
                S2Forum Enthusiast
                • Feb 2006
                • 145
                • Country: Finland

                #8
                Proper way indeed, but I wouldn't be too worried about the bump steer, As Audi track rods are half a meter long, so 40-50mm won't do a massive change.

                E: A small geometrical study: Unfortunately I don't have the real dimensions of audi suspension geometry, but if we estimate that the track rod is 500mm long and the steering arm in the column 200mm, every 50mm of track rod moving up/down equals about 2,5mm horizontal movement which equals about 0,7 degrees turning the wheels.

                E2: Silly me. The change is not linear, it follows a sin-graph. So a 100mm change wouldbe 10mm horizontal -> ~3degrees turning the wheels.
                Last edited by Mr.Crossfire; 12 January 2011, 21:15.

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