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  • DD & Winter Beast - 91 200 20VTQAvant (3B)

    Picked up a 1991 Audi 200 20V Turbo Quattro Avant for a daily driver/winter beast.....

    My 3rd Audi, 2nd Quattro, and 1st Turbo....



















    Exterior:
    -Pearl white in desperate need of a clay bar, polish, and wax
    -Some chips and scratches here and there,paint chipped on edge of hood
    -Black trim in good condition, needs a little clean and conditioning
    -Body in good condition, little bit of surface rust coming through on hatch
    -Underneath relatively little rust, especially considering age and its a northeast car
    -Missing chrome trim above/below grill
    -New windshield lat year
    -small crack in taillights

    Interior:
    -Comfort seats, overall condition good, could use good cleaning and conditioning, power and heat work
    -Floor mats/carpet filthy, needs a good shampooing and some all weather mats for winter
    -All electronic bits work except for rear windows, rear wiper works!
    -Headliner in good condition, not sagging
    -AC/Heat/Defroster work well/blow well
    -Rear accordion style cover included, apparently hard to find

    Wheels/Tires:
    -2 sets included
    -Stock BBS (7.5"J x 15" ET 35mm) in Michelin XSE 215/60R15, curbage and dirty, good tread left
    -ASA JH3 (7.5"J x 17" ET 35mm) in Blizzak LM-25V 235/45R17, need a good cleaning, great tread left

    Brakes:
    -G60 conversion up front
    -Good pad/rotor life left
    -New rear brake lines
    -E-brake doesn't grab well, most likely needs 2 new cables

    Suspension:
    -Feels a little floaty (but everything does compared to my coupe on V3s), nothing horribly bad though
    -could use some new upper mounts/bearings up front
    -Boge turbo gas shocks/stock springs feel okay for a daily driver

    Extras:
    -Included full 3 volume set of Bentley Manuals
    -Folder with receipt history but nothing added in since 2001

    Engine:
    -3B with 209,000 miles
    -Completely filthy, must have been a leaky valve cover gasket at some point, oily residue everywhere, needs thorough cleaning
    -Starts good, drives good but heats up quickly
    -Wrong coolant and coolant issue, either blockage or exhaust gas pressurizing coolant (see below)
    -Would really benefit from a good tuneup
    -Cleared codes, several came back.......
    2121-Engine Speed Sensor
    2342-Oxygen Sensor
    2111-Engine Speed Sensor
    -Compression test results
    Dry:
    Cylinder 1: 175
    Cylinder 2: 167
    Cylinder 3: 165
    Cylinder 4: 160
    Cylinder 5: 170

    Wet:
    Cylinder 1: 202
    Cylinder 2: 210
    Cylinder 3: 210
    Cylinder 4: 205
    Cylinder 5: 210

    Took it through an emissions test as is and it failed just barely, high HCs on idle......


    So hopefully if i fix those codes and give her a good tuneup she will pass.

    The one issue on the car that I really have to look into and I'm a little confused on at the moment is the coolant leak. The coolant will leak out from the reservoir at the point where the radiator overflow hose connects to to it once the car is warmed up. So its either blockage or at first i thought maybe the headgasket is leaky an adding pressure to the coolant system., but with those compression numbers seem fine. I haven't checked the thermostat yet but could a stuck one cause this to happen?

    So do you guys think the leaking coolant from the reservoir and the high hydrocarbons at idle are related to a bad headgasket, even with those compression numbers? Some input would be greatly appreciated.

    Goals:
    -Clean her up
    -Get her running nicely
    -Use her through the winter
    -Re-evaluate in the spring/ possible start thinking upgrades
    Last edited by Kliminati456; 13 October 2011, 23:26.
    Justin
    1990 Audi Coupe Quattro= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46309
    1991 Audi 200 20VTQA= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54410
    1987 Audi Coupe GT

  • #2
    Noooo...


    That's not allowed.... Why didn't we get 100's and 100's of these in the UK...

    It's not fair....


    Lovely car, the UK folk will be going nuts for that...
    85 WR Urquattro, 85 20vT International liveried RallyRep
    93 MTMS2 Avant

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    • #3
      Nice collection of motors there I love 200s so bloody rare in the UK and the coupe looks good to (dark grey one!)

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      • #4
        Mate of mine had a 200, 10 valve though, amazing car.

        S2 Coupe 3B Project


        Ur quattro restoration

        S2 Avant

        Boost is the new rock and roll!
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        • #5
          Originally posted by anthonys2 View Post
          Nice collection of motors there I love 200s so bloody rare in the UK and the coupe looks good to (dark grey one!)
          Lago is blue rather than grey...a very nice colour all the same my friend

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          • #6
            Stunning car nevertheless

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            • #7
              Thank You all for the comments

              States didn't get S2 or RS2 and we barely got these, I think officially 149 imported

              Chezz you are correct the coupe is Lago blue metallic. A lot of people see grey on their monitors though something weird with that color in photos
              Justin
              1990 Audi Coupe Quattro= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46309
              1991 Audi 200 20VTQA= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54410
              1987 Audi Coupe GT

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              • #8
                To be honest, Lago is moving into the blue/grey spectrum...It's a damn shame the S2's never received Lago.

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                • #9
                  Thermostat could be fitted incorrectly and this will cause the fluids to retreat - due the inability for the fluids to circulate around the engine. As you already suspect, a jammed stat, will cause the same symptoms

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                  • #10
                    Nice

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                    • #11
                      Welp one of the previous owners popped up on Motorgeek and gave me some additional info on car. He owned it from 120k-170k then sold it to his friend (who I bought it from) but remained the mechanic for the car.


                      -Swapped entire driveline in from a 5000qt. So that means 3.89:1 rather than 4.11:1. Also means center and rear locking ability (not hooked up yet). Car was built really to be a highway cruiser.

                      -92 urS4 springs swapped in, so a bit lower and stiffer than stock 200 springs.

                      -Some additional maintenance info as well.....
                      -All belts/waterpump replace less that 5k miles ago
                      -Tightened timing chains and replaced distributor with brass gear approx @150k miles
                      -New Sachs clutch @150k miles
                      -New radiator @ 120k miles
                      -New valve cover gasket 6 months ago

                      -My k24 is most likely shot and needs replacing. Explains smoking and possibly reason for emissions failure. So I'm in the market for a good used k24
                      Justin
                      1990 Audi Coupe Quattro= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46309
                      1991 Audi 200 20VTQA= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54410
                      1987 Audi Coupe GT

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                      • #12
                        Last edited by Bart76; 18 October 2011, 19:26.

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                        • #13
                          Cake anyone? yummmmm










                          No intercooler o-ring seal?


                          Faulty thermostat looks fine but did not budge open in boiling water
                          Justin
                          1990 Audi Coupe Quattro= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46309
                          1991 Audi 200 20VTQA= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54410
                          1987 Audi Coupe GT

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                          • #14
                            omg... please clean tht engine bay until perfection..
                            there is lot of work , but you will be sadesfited when job will be done !
                            I will be waching your project!
                            200 20v rules !

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                            • #15
                              hmmmm what I find today....

                              umm yeah this...




                              Both knock sensor basically fell apart when i touched them......



                              corroded mfts....
                              Justin
                              1990 Audi Coupe Quattro= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46309
                              1991 Audi 200 20VTQA= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54410
                              1987 Audi Coupe GT

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