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  • rj scotty
    S2Forum Fiend
    • May 2006
    • 2195
    • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

    #1

    H&R spring worn

    Well after a full hour on the ramp shacking, rocking, levering and prodding every bush and mount on the front of the Avant the problem has been identified:

    It would appear the occasional loud knock from the front near side is the H&R spring coming unseated.

    When the car is jacked at the front with no weight on the wheels the near side spring can be rotated easily where as the off side spring is difficult to rotate, guess which side the knock comes from

    Anybody else experienced worn H&R?

    Anybody selling any KW's? Christmas present to self
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    2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)
  • andyg plym
    S2Forum Freak
    • Nov 2006
    • 4646
    • Country: England

    #2
    not been accidentally fitted upside down? got a knock myself from the O/S after going back to stock springs. Coincidentally i am refitting the HR's but just thought id throw it out there as I only found this out recently

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    • rj scotty
      S2Forum Fiend
      • May 2006
      • 2195
      • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

      #3
      I was just reading the thread regarding orientation Andy, I would appear they may be up side down since 2006! going to check that tomorrow. I'm also going to swap them over left/right: visa/versa see if the knocking moves.
      Last edited by rj scotty; 1 December 2013, 21:27. Reason: I spell like a spaz
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      "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
      BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

      1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
      1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
      2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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      • rj scotty
        S2Forum Fiend
        • May 2006
        • 2195
        • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

        #4
        Spec for reference:

        H&R springs
        Koni adjustable, setting 1
        Pro-mount top mounts
        Poly wishbone bushes
        solid sub frame bushes
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        "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
        BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

        1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
        1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
        2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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        • andyg plym
          S2Forum Freak
          • Nov 2006
          • 4646
          • Country: England

          #5
          haha would make me chuckle if it was! my hr's were perfect before i removed, wish i never did- the ride on stock springs is somehow worse but thats a whole other topic!
          My current knock on the O/S sounds like a sort of twang/ping sort of knock noise. What sort of knock is yours?

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          • rj scotty
            S2Forum Fiend
            • May 2006
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            • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

            #6
            It's a short sudden snap sound, non technical passengers notice it

            Don't do it all the time, you have to do the exact secret combination fo turning/breaking/accelerating for it to occur.
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            "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
            BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

            1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
            1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
            2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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            • varia
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Mar 2009
              • 821
              • Current: United States

              #7
              check the top of your strut perch, it might be to close to the spring.





              the last two coil might sit in it, but once you go over something it snaps out.
              I had to open the top a bit and I put a piece of garden hose also, as a silencer.
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              • andyg plym
                S2Forum Freak
                • Nov 2006
                • 4646
                • Country: England

                #8
                Garden hose ?? The simplest things !

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                • K Simmonds
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 7627
                  • Country: Wales

                  #9
                  Good idea using hose pipe, the Eibachs I got for my MK2 Golf came with a clear hose covering the the bottom three or four coils presumably for that reason.
                  1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                  1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                  1994 MTM RS2.
                  1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                  2000 B5 TQS.

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                  • rj scotty
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • May 2006
                    • 2195
                    • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                    #10
                    A quick update guys:

                    Removed springs, swapped side to side and left to right. Tight wound section now at top. Noise appears to have disappeared during limited testing. More results to follow.
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                    "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
                    BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

                    1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
                    1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
                    2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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                    • newsh
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 16226
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11

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                      • andyg plym
                        S2Forum Freak
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 4646
                        • Country: England

                        #12
                        Update on mine.....I removed the spring that the noise was coming from and found out it was upside down ! Fitted my h and r springs taking care to get the right ends up and now there is no noise whatsoever ! Il add pics later so others can tell which is top and bottom

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                        • Rusty
                          Super Moderator
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 18953
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          don't tell Error that an upside down spring was the casue; he'll not be able to take the P out of me then
                          Cheers'en, AndyC
                          1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                          • Error404
                            Super Moderator
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 19789
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
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