B2, B3, B4 subframe differences?

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  • bn-01-wso
    S2Forum Addict
    • May 2009
    • 471
    • Country: Romania

    #1

    B2, B3, B4 subframe differences?

    Hi. Does anyone know if there is any difference betwen B2, B3 and B4 5speed subframes? I know that on the 6speed the suport that holds the rubber mounting for the transmission is a bit taller ( ? ). But what about the 5speed? Is there any difference? Thanks
    Last edited by bn-01-wso; 28 May 2015, 07:57.
  • ralleyquattro
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Oct 2007
    • 536
    • Home: Poland Current: Canada

    #2
    When it comes to 5 cyl quattro

    B4 5 and 6 speeds are the same (different than B2 and B3).

    B2 and B3 are the same.
    www.quattro.ca
    B2: 82 Urq into Sport quattro, 82 4000 2-door, 83 80q 2 Door, 83 Ur-q CDN, 85 Ur-q Euro with 3B, 86 4kq, 59,000km
    B3/B4: 91 CQ, 93 90q 2.5TDI, 94 80q avant 2.5tdi, 94 S2 Avant

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    • bn-01-wso
      S2Forum Addict
      • May 2009
      • 471
      • Country: Romania

      #3
      B3 and B4 coupes have the same subframe part numbers, but when it comes to sedans B2 and B3 share the same subframe part numbers and B4 is different.
      On RS2 there is a single part number 8A0199313BC. Does this mean that is only for 6speed and only the 6speed are different? I am strictly refering to the position of the rubber mountings for the transmission. I am a litle confused.
      Can 01E with s2/Rs2 6speed transmission mounts be fitted on B3 or S2 3B without the spacer required on B2 subframes?

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      • JariP
        S2Forum Enthusiast
        • Jul 2003
        • 192
        • Country: Finland

        #4
        No, it needs the spacer. Easy to make from old b3 suspension mount. Strip off the rubber and shorten the alu core to about 35mm and get a longer bolt.

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        • bn-01-wso
          S2Forum Addict
          • May 2009
          • 471
          • Country: Romania

          #5
          Originally posted by JariP
          No, it needs the spacer. Easy to make from old b3 suspension mount. Strip off the rubber and shorten the alu core to about 35mm and get a longer bolt.

          So this means that only the 6 speed subframe is different from the rest right?
          I made some 01E mounts for the b2 and i wasnt sure if they will fit the b3 and b4 5 speed subframes but from what you are saying they should work out.

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          • GazzaG60
            S2Forum Freak
            • Mar 2007
            • 4133
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            my 96 s2 subframes apart form the 6 speed bit are the same as 91 saloon

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            • ralleyquattro
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Oct 2007
              • 536
              • Home: Poland Current: Canada

              #7
              The B4 V6 with 5-speed uses the same subframe as the S2 6-speed.
              www.quattro.ca
              B2: 82 Urq into Sport quattro, 82 4000 2-door, 83 80q 2 Door, 83 Ur-q CDN, 85 Ur-q Euro with 3B, 86 4kq, 59,000km
              B3/B4: 91 CQ, 93 90q 2.5TDI, 94 80q avant 2.5tdi, 94 S2 Avant

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              • Ryss
                S2Forum Addict
                • Nov 2009
                • 233
                • Country: South Africa

                #8
                Difference between subframes for manual and auto? Auto does not have any gearbox mountings.
                Regards
                Ryss
                www.autostart.co.za

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                • bn-01-wso
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • May 2009
                  • 471
                  • Country: Romania

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ryss
                  Difference between subframes for manual and auto? Auto does not have any gearbox mountings.

                  Strictly manual and quattro

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                  • campbellWS
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 446
                    • Country: Scotland

                    #10
                    No RARB mounts on b2

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                    • Typ89
                      S2Forum Enthusiast
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 119
                      • Country: Netherlands

                      #11
                      Can I use a B4 subframe on a B3 chassis if I use B3 bushes?

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                      • Audicted
                        S2Forum Addict
                        • May 2004
                        • 366
                        • Home: Jamaica Current: United States

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ryss
                        Difference between subframes for manual and auto? Auto does not have any gearbox mountings.
                        Boy, did I find that out the hard way. All sorted now though.

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                        • quattrostyle
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 6229
                          • Country: Netherlands

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Typ89
                          Can I use a B4 subframe on a B3 chassis if I use B3 bushes?
                          Yup straight fit AFAIK.

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                          • _ShurikeN
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 733
                            • Country: Russian Federation

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Typ89
                            Can I use a B4 subframe on a B3 chassis if I use B3 bushes?
                            Yes, if the engine is 5 cylinders. 4-cylinder engine in B3 is attached to subframe. There are no mountings for engine on B4 subframe.

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                            • quattrito
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 739
                              • Country: Latvia

                              #15
                              B2Q front subframe has different mounts and mounting points for anti roll bar, everything else is like B3 or B4 5cyl.

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