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  • mcandmar
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Apr 2004
    • 5118
    • Country: Ireland

    #1

    Alloy subframe mounts issue...

    I had a query before about the rear sub frame using different bushings to the front, turns out the larger bushings are slightly taller on the rear sub frame,

    Front Sub frame Rear Sub frame

    857 199 415 B 857 199 415 B
    857 199 419 B 857 199 419 C

    In the piccy I have two new rear sub frame bushings sitting along side the alloy mounts, note they are upside down so the bulge part at the bottom sits between the sub frame and the body of the car.

    In short I added a few large washers to make up the difference in height, without doing so it will fit fine except the sub frame and diff sit a few MM higher in the car and even closer to the exhaust over the inner driveshaft flange.

    Mark.
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  • Billman
    S2Forum Freak
    • Nov 2004
    • 4129

    #2
    Can someone please post dimensions of the Alloy sub frame mounts. I think i got wrong parts. Please all dimension incl. the hole in the middle.

    Go Holset or Go RS4

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    • Corey
      Banned
      • Sep 2003
      • 2793
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Originally posted by mcandmar
      I had a query before about the rear sub frame using different bushings to the front, turns out the larger bushings are slightly taller on the rear sub frame,

      Front Sub frame Rear Sub frame

      857 199 415 B 857 199 415 B
      857 199 419 B 857 199 419 C

      In the piccy I have two new rear sub frame bushings sitting along side the alloy mounts, note they are upside down so the bulge part at the bottom sits between the sub frame and the body of the car.

      In short I added a few large washers to make up the difference in height, without doing so it will fit fine except the sub frame and diff sit a few MM higher in the car and even closer to the exhaust over the inner driveshaft flange.

      Mark.
      Something we have addressed, we have also done thicker still to allow for larger exhausts to go over the back axle.
      There are also offset items for the front subframe (034 manufacture these) for better geometry and to allow for some big *** downpipeage to poke through
      Corey
      01636 822288

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      • Billman
        S2Forum Freak
        • Nov 2004
        • 4129

        #4
        Originally posted by Billman
        Can someone please post dimensions of the Alloy sub frame mounts. I think i got wrong parts. Please all dimension incl. the hole in the middle.

        Corey can you maybe give the dimentions of the alloy ones? These are for RS2 front.

        I think the hole in the middle is incorrect.

        ???
        Last edited by Billman; 17 May 2007, 08:51.
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        • Corey
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          • Sep 2003
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          #5
          I can sell you the correct ones for your chassis, they are hard anodised to protect against any material migration bewteen the dissimilar metals.
          You dimension's though are not enough to produce the alloy mounts, the sharp corners would lead to stress points and lead to an early failiure.
          Corey
          01636 822288

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          • Billman
            S2Forum Freak
            • Nov 2004
            • 4129

            #6
            The problem is through a wrong order i got now the alloy mounts. The measurements are rough measures from me. I think they did not bore the right holes in the midlle of them. The edges are all rounded etc and many people in Germany are using them for over 3 years now.

            I was thinking of going PU but they could not cancel my alloy order so now i am going to give them a go.
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            • Corey
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              • Sep 2003
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              #7
              Who did you get the alloy ones from?
              Corey
              01636 822288

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              • Billman
                S2Forum Freak
                • Nov 2004
                • 4129

                #8
                his Name is Gerd and he lives in germany. He makes them himself for his own car. The peopel who driving with his PU are very pleased. I think that mine where just sent wrong.

                He only has front wishbone bushes and subframe.
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                • Billman
                  S2Forum Freak
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 4129

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Billman
                  Can someone please post dimensions of the Alloy sub frame mounts. I think i got wrong parts. Please all dimension incl. the hole in the middle.

                  ???
                  Go Holset or Go RS4

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                  • Billman
                    S2Forum Freak
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 4129

                    #10
                    If someone has a Sub frame outside the car and could measure the mount sits then it would also do the job.

                    Thanks
                    Go Holset or Go RS4

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                    • mcandmar
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 5118
                      • Country: Ireland

                      #11
                      AFAIK they are all the same except for the bolt hole in the middle, i think late model S2's had a larger bolt. Something like 12mm vs 10mm.
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                      • Billman
                        S2Forum Freak
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 4129

                        #12
                        Maybe he send me then the S2 mounts (older models) and not RS2. Then only widening this hole will make it fit.
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                        • eamo
                          S2Forum Buff
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 41
                          • Country: Ireland

                          #13
                          sorry to hijack thread but i need rear subframe bushes. what are the part nos and any one got instructions to do it??

                          thanks
                          Quattro Man!

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