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  • S2central.net
    Retired OG Mod
    • Jul 2003
    • 16590
    • Country: Northern Ireland

    #1

    Subframe strengthening

    My front subframe is mechanically sound and I am going to get it blasted and repainted (cannot decide on POR15 or Powder Coat) but before I do that I was wondering if it's worth getting it stitch welded or strengthened in other ways to add stiffness and robustness.

    I had a quick search on the forum to see if anyone else has BTDT but it doesn't seem so.

    Any thoughts or experiences welcome.
    Paul Nugent
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    1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
    2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
    2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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  • s2driveruk
    Super Moderator
    • Jul 2003
    • 12696
    • Country: England

    #2
    Always thought they actually look pretty solid off the car let alone bolted up with a set of solid or poly bushes...i had mine blasted zinc'd and powder coated and being under the car the other weekend it was still looking in decent shape...was done 6 or 7 years back and last year can ran throught the winter.
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    • S2central.net
      Retired OG Mod
      • Jul 2003
      • 16590
      • Country: Northern Ireland

      #3
      I agree as there are loads of spot welds around the seams. Just wondering if it's worth beefing them up anywhere as the car should see the odd track day if this project ever completes.
      Paul Nugent
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      Administrator http://S2forum.com

      1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
      2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
      2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

      Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

      There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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      • Error404
        Super Moderator
        • Mar 2007
        • 19789
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        I stitch welded mine around the seam, same with rear wishbones
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        Indigo ABY coupé
        Imola B6 S4 Avant

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        • S2central.net
          Retired OG Mod
          • Jul 2003
          • 16590
          • Country: Northern Ireland

          #5
          The rear wishbones would definitely benefit from that - easy to see where along the seams. Harder to see on the subframes but I will definitely investigate before I get them blasted.
          Paul Nugent
          Webmaster http://S2central.net
          Administrator http://S2forum.com

          1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
          2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
          2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

          Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

          There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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          • speeding-g60
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Aug 2008
            • 1186
            • Country: United States

            #6
            i weld mine completely around all seams. moving around a lot to disperse heat of course.

            and when i ran stamped control arms, same thing weld the joint.

            did it do anything? sheesh i am not smart enough to be able to measure anything like that.

            might as well in my case, my time i own and it was no big deal. also lets you clean up scrappy stuff in the process.

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            • terrybullwon
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2006
              • 8782
              • Country: England

              #7
              Problem is the sub frame will move on the mounts before it will make the sub frame change shape.
              Chef

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              • S2central.net
                Retired OG Mod
                • Jul 2003
                • 16590
                • Country: Northern Ireland

                #8
                Do you mean there is a chance of deforming it during welding operations ?
                Paul Nugent
                Webmaster http://S2central.net
                Administrator http://S2forum.com

                1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                • diesel des
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 3896

                  #9
                  I welded all the seams on both my subframes for the urq.

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                  • S2central.net
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 16590
                    • Country: Northern Ireland

                    #10
                    Fancy doing two more sometime ?
                    Paul Nugent
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                    Administrator http://S2forum.com

                    1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                    2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                    2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                    Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

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                    • diesel des
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 3896

                      #11
                      Could be done Paul. They don't weld very neatly as even when blasted their is so much crap in the seam.

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                      • AndyP
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 6049
                        • Country: England

                        #12
                        Originally posted by diesel des
                        Could be done Paul. They don't weld very neatly as even when blasted their is so much crap in the seam.

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                        I tried TIG welding mine after blasting and had the same issue, I gave up in the end. Probably have more sucess with a MIG,
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                        1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
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                        • diesel des
                          S2Forum Possessed
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 3896

                          #13
                          Even with the mug it spits etc.

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                          • terrybullwon
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 8782
                            • Country: England

                            #14
                            Originally posted by S2central.net
                            Do you mean there is a chance of deforming it during welding operations ?
                            I mean under hard corning on good tyres the sub frame will move on the 4 bolts
                            Chef

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                            • diesel des
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 3896

                              #15
                              I tied the subframe bolts into the cage in an effort to stop this. Is this a common issue?

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