Gearboxes for 5++ hp

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  • volcano rs
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    • Jun 2005
    • 2265
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    so whats the story with kv engined coupe quattro boxes around 1986 ? from what i've heard they can handle some series power .

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    • ~Delta
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Apr 2005
      • 797

      #17
      You heard right dude, they are tough.
      I proved it in my type 85 Coupe quattro (1987)
      Never show a fool a half built house.
      Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

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      The more bread you have, the less **** you eat

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      • volcano rs
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        • Jun 2005
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        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        so delta tell me more i gave one of them away thinking it was scrap but i can get hold of one what exact year or part number i'm i looking for . respect .

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        • ~Delta
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Apr 2005
          • 797

          #19
          Coupe quattro 1987, code "US".
          Never show a fool a half built house.
          Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

          Life is like a **** sandwich
          The more bread you have, the less **** you eat

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          • volcano rs
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            • Jun 2005
            • 2265
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            aren't they torsen in 1987 ?

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            • ~Delta
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              • Apr 2005
              • 797

              #21
              No Torsen in type 85 cars, apart from quattro turbo 10V (MB) and 20V (RR). Final drive on those cars though are 3.89:1, so no good for S2, unless you replace the rear differential with one from the Ur quattro.

              016 transmission with Torsen and similar overall gearing as the S2 (4.11:1 and 24.7 MPH / 1000 RPM is the one fitted to Audi 100 quattro turbo (type 44 from 1988 - 1991)
              Never show a fool a half built house.
              Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

              Life is like a **** sandwich
              The more bread you have, the less **** you eat

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              • jogi730
                S2Forum Fiend
                • Jun 2004
                • 2335
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                Originally posted by volcano rs
                so whats the story with kv engined coupe quattro boxes around 1986 ? from what i've heard they can handle some series power .
                Got a 5.5 mb vid clip of Audi 90 (4000) quattro doing 10.07 1/4 with that box.
                Want to see it pm me with e-mail cos got no idea how to upload it onto here... lol. Worth seeing though!
                Cheers
                Chris
                Audi 90 quattro (Typ 85)
                20v turbo conversion

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                • caterpillar
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 2480

                  #23
                  gearboxcode

                  gearbox EDU 6gear A6 09/00-05/01
                  gearbox AEC 5gear AQ 85-87
                  gearbox CKF A6 7/96 -10/97
                  gearbox CMG 6gear S4 10/92-07/94
                  gearbox CET 5gear S4 07/92-07/94
                  gearbox EEY 6gear S6 04/00-05/01
                  gearbox CBN 6gear S4 08/91-07/92
                  dont tell anybody

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                  • Erikb
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 648
                    • Country: Netherlands

                    #24
                    But for the 6 gear boxes, is it most important to get a box with a wide and flexible 1st gear? Or will the flexible dont be any stronger then the normal wide gear?
                    Getting everything sorted out for my 5++ hp project

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                    • Henka
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                      • Nov 2004
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                      #25
                      First thing is a wide gear, the flexible shafts are secondary.

                      I'm kind of leaning towards a 016 locker for a future project. However, I'd like to try a car with 300-ish hp, a locked center and decent suspension before I make up my mind.

                      Also, once again.. The link that I posted - it's REALLY worth looking at. That is one useful page, lads!

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                      • Erikb
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 648
                        • Country: Netherlands

                        #26
                        I looked into that one, it is really interesting site. There are so many different gearboxes. I really like to have a 6 speed box. But it must be capable of taking some serious abuse.

                        But what about the installation, are all boxes easy to install?

                        Thanx,

                        Erik
                        Getting everything sorted out for my 5++ hp project

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                        • Henka
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                          • Nov 2004
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Billman
                          @Henka

                          What is the Gearbox Letters for the A8 gearbox? Is it with torsen and a straight fit? Do you have this info?
                          As I stated in my previous post - its DGV. Torsen, straight fit if you have a car with a 01E, you'll need the linkage parts from the S2 though. They are cheaper than Rs2's and S4/RS4's at least in Sweden.

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                          • Gringo
                            S2Forum Enthusiast
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 139
                            • Country: United States

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Henka
                            First thing is a wide gear, the flexible shafts are secondary.

                            I'm kind of leaning towards a 016 locker for a future project. However, I'd like to try a car with 300-ish hp, a locked center and decent suspension before I make up my mind.

                            Also, once again.. The link that I posted - it's REALLY worth looking at. That is one useful page, lads!
                            I personally think you are wrong. You are wrong in the sense that the application decides what gearbox you need.

                            The gearboxes with the wide firstgear has a weaker inputshaft. This gearbox should be good for dragracing with a medium powered engine.

                            The gearboxes with the narrow firstgear has a stronger inputshaft and is therefor more suited for highpower engines used on trackracing.

                            For pure dragstrip performance the old 6E 5 speed gearbox type 81 1983-85 is the probably the strongest and best ratios for this purpose.
                            Now you see me, now you don`t

                            80quattro.com

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                            • ~Delta
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 797

                              #29
                              6E? Is that FWD or 4WD? I suspect that it's FWD...
                              Never show a fool a half built house.
                              Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

                              Life is like a **** sandwich
                              The more bread you have, the less **** you eat

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                              • Henka
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 585
                                • Home: Sweden

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Gringo
                                I personally think you are wrong. You are wrong in the sense that the application decides what gearbox you need.

                                The gearboxes with the wide firstgear has a weaker inputshaft. This gearbox should be good for dragracing with a medium powered engine.

                                The gearboxes with the narrow firstgear has a stronger inputshaft and is therefor more suited for highpower engines used on trackracing.

                                For pure dragstrip performance the old 6E 5 speed gearbox type 81 1983-85 is the probably the strongest and best ratios for this purpose.
                                I always thought they were the same size. I mean, there is nothing that suggest that it HAD to thinner/weaker due to a wider gear. Does this apply to all gearboxes with a wide gear, flexible axle or not? If so, I see your point as track cars don't generally use first gear and max power output. Anywho, still tempted by the locker though.

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