All quiet on LH front...
For now at least. A80Avant:
a) Did you use the Mount-Savers in the plain mounts after their use in the Pro-Mounts? If yes, please say what mount brand , P/N and/or sourcing?
b) If the 034s do disappoint, perhaps reconsider the Pro-Mounts (they do look weathered, sea-spray perhaps?) but if the bearings (separated from the mount or not) are now un-stuck and still operate (you likely know enough to not risk contaminating the Teflon lining with any POL products) and the Mount-Savers will still fit into the top cavity, if you wanted to, you could likely run them again;
c) I'm not saying the Mount-Saver top-ring could make noise, but I could send you an additional pair of non-metallic rings (space permitting, how deep is the Pro-Mount cavity? Greater than the Mount-Saver's height? See also my avatar photo.) to isolate them from the inner fender, removing that possibility; &
d) As you've a wide experience here, could you please speak further about both transitions: from Boge's to Bilstein's dampers; and from Bilstein's to Koni's, WRT ride and handling; and what other changes that may have taken place with and/or during each change-out that may have also had a bearing on your impressions?
Bowie69 Re: "... Are they different on a CQ20V?" The originals for that car would have been:
a) Boges, and at their debut, amongst the strongest of OEMs available at that time;
b) of lesser sustained load capacity in comparison with the latest Boges, made for the V6 and all the later cars, RS2s included; &
c) despite that their physical appearance is nigh on identical, perhaps not widely understood is that although the later versions are understandably backwards compatible (and the dealer would only supply those latest ones), it also follows that the reverse is not really true, precisely as earlier editions are; all weaker (so you can imagine why the dealer wouldn't stock or order those). But weaker are certainly "out there"; and "popular" too!
You have done very well to have both 50k on yours and no complaints. Perhaps you are familiar with gauging how much clearance you have between the cupped-washers lower inboard edges and the painted inner fender strut tower-tops underneath? Please say what mounts you have; and what clearance height (remaining mount life) do they indicate?
Separately, although certainly related:
s2driveruk Re: "If there is any slack on the wishbone (a.k.a. A-arm) bushes, e.g. no washers either side of the bushes then they will knock, especially at slow speed." While I'm not entirely clear whether you meant poly or OEMs, with OEM bushes, I certainly agree. That axial movement (which left alone, the stock install silently and rapidly allows) is the primary cause for failure of otherwise correctly (as per factory) installed A-arm bushes. For others seeking relief who may prefer what new stock Boges can be made to offer very long term here, these may interest you:
"Arm-Stops"
For now at least. A80Avant:
a) Did you use the Mount-Savers in the plain mounts after their use in the Pro-Mounts? If yes, please say what mount brand , P/N and/or sourcing?
b) If the 034s do disappoint, perhaps reconsider the Pro-Mounts (they do look weathered, sea-spray perhaps?) but if the bearings (separated from the mount or not) are now un-stuck and still operate (you likely know enough to not risk contaminating the Teflon lining with any POL products) and the Mount-Savers will still fit into the top cavity, if you wanted to, you could likely run them again;
c) I'm not saying the Mount-Saver top-ring could make noise, but I could send you an additional pair of non-metallic rings (space permitting, how deep is the Pro-Mount cavity? Greater than the Mount-Saver's height? See also my avatar photo.) to isolate them from the inner fender, removing that possibility; &
d) As you've a wide experience here, could you please speak further about both transitions: from Boge's to Bilstein's dampers; and from Bilstein's to Koni's, WRT ride and handling; and what other changes that may have taken place with and/or during each change-out that may have also had a bearing on your impressions?
Bowie69 Re: "... Are they different on a CQ20V?" The originals for that car would have been:
a) Boges, and at their debut, amongst the strongest of OEMs available at that time;
b) of lesser sustained load capacity in comparison with the latest Boges, made for the V6 and all the later cars, RS2s included; &
c) despite that their physical appearance is nigh on identical, perhaps not widely understood is that although the later versions are understandably backwards compatible (and the dealer would only supply those latest ones), it also follows that the reverse is not really true, precisely as earlier editions are; all weaker (so you can imagine why the dealer wouldn't stock or order those). But weaker are certainly "out there"; and "popular" too!
You have done very well to have both 50k on yours and no complaints. Perhaps you are familiar with gauging how much clearance you have between the cupped-washers lower inboard edges and the painted inner fender strut tower-tops underneath? Please say what mounts you have; and what clearance height (remaining mount life) do they indicate?
Separately, although certainly related:
s2driveruk Re: "If there is any slack on the wishbone (a.k.a. A-arm) bushes, e.g. no washers either side of the bushes then they will knock, especially at slow speed." While I'm not entirely clear whether you meant poly or OEMs, with OEM bushes, I certainly agree. That axial movement (which left alone, the stock install silently and rapidly allows) is the primary cause for failure of otherwise correctly (as per factory) installed A-arm bushes. For others seeking relief who may prefer what new stock Boges can be made to offer very long term here, these may interest you:
"Arm-Stops"
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