ideas dsg-box in urquattro

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  • x6rs
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    just using a seq box and throw in some paddles is not an option, i wanted the advantages of a dsg box, full boost and of course easy to shift gears while drifting the car, how did audi do it on the old pdk box they used in the s1 back in“85? i guess there werent as much electronics to consider back in the days? anyways for now im sticking to my 01e box, and if that box breaks i use my spare 01e from an rs4
    anyone tried flatshift togheter with an 01e box? can yuo shift without using the clutch? im guessing the issue will be when shifting from 2nd to 3rd, loosing abit of power when im entering a corner in 2nd and almost hitting the revlimiter, there should be a 2.5 gear or just use 3rd all the way and popping the clutch a bit when entering, but i dont like popping the clutch...

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  • Mcstiff
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    Regardless of longevity, the way to do it would be to use one of the newer I5's with transmission. I don't think they have a longitudinal I5 in anything (Concept Quattro) but I cannot recall a torsen DSG transaxle either.

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  • pasbogdan
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    That is mounted on a Lupo3L also.I have one in my garage and the car stops randomly(when getting to Drive position,or R,or when it changes gears).Do you know the vag com procedure of reseting the system,clutch position learning etc?

    Thank you

    Edit:
    How fast can that system change gears?

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  • 4WheelDrifter
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    Originally posted by Error404
    I think it would be reasonably easy to set up some paddles to trigger a shift solenoid on a sequential box. Then you could just get the ECU mapped with flat-shift trigger
    Or electrohydraulic shift contolled by solenoids. This is what I have on one of my cars. It can be used like a sequential box, but with a normal H pattern manual gearbox. I have thought about rigging up steering wheel buttons, but a stick for + and - is easy enough.

    Here is the complete system, apart from the ECU of course.



    I believe the Ferrari F360 uses a similar system. In fact I'm pretty sure the accumulator had the same part number when I was looking for one.

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  • Error404
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    Originally posted by x6rs
    yea sure it would be much easier just to throw in a seq 01e, but it would be nice to have paddles on the steering wheel and not loose any bust at all during gearchanges, why use a seq box when an oem 01e with a shortshift kit works good too?
    I think it would be reasonably easy to set up some paddles to trigger a shift solenoid on a sequential box. Then you could just get the ECU mapped with flat-shift trigger

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  • terrybullwon
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    Originally posted by x6rs
    yea sure it would be much easier just to throw in a seq 01e, but it would be nice to have paddles on the steering wheel and not loose any bust at all during gearchanges, why use a seq box when an oem 01e with a shortshift kit works good too?
    It would be a barrel box so just up or down shifts no H and you could buy a paddle kit if you really wanted.

    I am afraid there is not cheap or cheats way of doing this trust me I have looked. I went with the KRB box

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  • Vauhtiveikko
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    Originally posted by re2500
    What box is in the V10 bi-turbo RS6? Is that DSG?
    It is actually a prepped but old school six-speed tiptronic (09E) in the RS6

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  • x6rs
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    again, my writing sucks, boost not bust

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  • x6rs
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    yea sure it would be much easier just to throw in a seq 01e, but it would be nice to have paddles on the steering wheel and not loose any bust at all during gearchanges, why use a seq box when an oem 01e with a shortshift kit works good too?

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  • Error404
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    AFAIK the DSG ECU is intrinsically linked to the engine ECU(s). As James said, surely a sequetial dog-box is the way to go?

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  • terrybullwon
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    Originally posted by x6rs
    too much torque i guess?
    There just really not built for it.

    Maybe something from a Audi R8 but then your better off buying the KRB one

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  • re2500
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    What box is in the V10 bi-turbo RS6? Is that DSG?

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  • x6rs
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    too much torque i guess?

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  • terrybullwon
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    Dont bother it wont last.

    Contact Kai at KRB and get a fully sequential 01E for less than 10,000 euros

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  • x6rs
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    oem ecu i meant, thinking in swedish and writing english isnt so easy

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