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  • bertman
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Apr 2007
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    #16
    Darren that has crossed my mind the fact I need something thicker perhaps
    What would you recommend as a good alternative??
    Rob

    Ragussa green avant RS2+ spec
    Racing blue Octavia VRS mk2 estate-Remapped now to 250 bhp
    Audi coupe gt-slow as hell but loads of character-sold

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    • Error404
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      • Mar 2007
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      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      with Darren, what oil is it you're using Rob?
      Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
      Indigo ABY coupé
      Imola B6 S4 Avant

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      • bertman
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        • Apr 2007
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        #18
        Millers fully synthetic 75/90
        Rob

        Ragussa green avant RS2+ spec
        Racing blue Octavia VRS mk2 estate-Remapped now to 250 bhp
        Audi coupe gt-slow as hell but loads of character-sold

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        • Error404
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          • Mar 2007
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          • Country: United Kingdom

          #19
          What spec? is it GL-5? If so that could be your issue.
          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
          Indigo ABY coupé
          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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          • bertman
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            • Apr 2007
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            #20
            Right Alex got the can in front of me and it says API GL-4,GL5
            Rob

            Ragussa green avant RS2+ spec
            Racing blue Octavia VRS mk2 estate-Remapped now to 250 bhp
            Audi coupe gt-slow as hell but loads of character-sold

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            • Error404
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              • Mar 2007
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              • Country: United Kingdom

              #21
              If the crunches started shortly after the new oil went in then that is probably most of your problem.
              I made the mistake of filling mine with GL-5, Rob (GT500) told me it wouldn't work and he was right. As it was ÂŁ60 worth of oil and I had spent a lot at the time, I decided to run it for the initial run-in period of my new engine. My RS4 box has covered 46k miles, so not that many. Syncros were crunching on every shift into 3rd and 4th unless I was really slow and deliberate with the change, and shifting in general was rough and poor. After a couple hundred miles I dropped it out and refilled with GL-4 and the problems all but vanished. I still get the odd crunch, i think i need to drain & refill again as Darren suggested to remove the remnants of the GL-5 from the box. I am tempted to try OEM oil next time.
              GL-5 oil will show up worn syncros and wear out the ones that aren't in quick fashion.
              Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
              Indigo ABY coupé
              Imola B6 S4 Avant

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              • bertman
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                • Apr 2007
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                #22
                ok,ideally what is the best thing to put in the box?
                Rob

                Ragussa green avant RS2+ spec
                Racing blue Octavia VRS mk2 estate-Remapped now to 250 bhp
                Audi coupe gt-slow as hell but loads of character-sold

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                • Error404
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                  • Mar 2007
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                  #23
                  GL-4 is definitely better, I am starting to think the Audi engineers knew best with whatever they used from the factory.
                  Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                  Indigo ABY coupé
                  Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                  • bertman
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Apr 2007
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                    #24
                    Any specific gear oil spring to mind.I saw that you have used fuchs before
                    Rob

                    Ragussa green avant RS2+ spec
                    Racing blue Octavia VRS mk2 estate-Remapped now to 250 bhp
                    Audi coupe gt-slow as hell but loads of character-sold

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                    • Error404
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                      • Mar 2007
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                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      I am using Castrol Syntrans GL-4 at the moment.
                      Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                      Indigo ABY coupé
                      Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                      • igor136
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                        • Jun 2014
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                        #26
                        I have the same problem. And Shell Oil GL-5. What is with this oil in diff? Can I leave it?
                        1-2-4-5-3

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                        • BrianSmith_S2
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                          • Jun 2005
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by igor136
                          I have the same problem. And Shell Oil GL-5. What is with this oil in diff? Can I leave it?
                          rear diff oil is GL 5 SAE 90 according to workshop manual,

                          gearbox oil is G 052 911 A SAE 75w 90 and is GL 4

                          Just looked on opie oils and the castrol Syntrans Transaxle 75w90 is GL4+ and equivalent to VW spec G 052 911
                          Last edited by BrianSmith_S2; 29 October 2014, 20:17.

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                          • igor136
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                            • Jun 2014
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                            #28
                            Tnx
                            1-2-4-5-3

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                            • Thuppu
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                              • Sep 2010
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                              #29
                              I did put Redline MT-90 GL4 oil in my box, but have to say it worked better before. It crunches on 2:nd and 3:rd on fast shifts. Propably my syncros arn't in the beast shape anymore, but I'm going to try some other oil. Maybe Midland Syncron..? Even that it's a GL4/GL5 oil, but it has been told to work really nice with these boxes.

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                              • igor136
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                                • Jun 2014
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                                #30
                                Tomorrow I'll change the oil in the gearbox. Is good to leave Sintrax S6 75w- 90 GL 5 oil in the differential?
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