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  • blu_s2
    S2Forum Addict
    • Jul 2003
    • 392
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Short Shift

    I've started to notice that once very hot my shifter is getting very squeaky and the change a bit (more) clunky.

    I've been thinking about the billzcat short shifter for a while.

    Has anyone done this mod, I know there was talk about it a long time back on yahoo?

    Cheers
    Jim
  • audiman
    S2Forum Freak
    • Jul 2003
    • 4827
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Whats that? A short shift kit? Tell me more. I want one of them!!!!
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    • martinjs
      S2Forum Possessed
      • Jul 2003
      • 3205
      • Country: England

      #3
      ive seen the ones from the states dont know which make they are, but theyre apparently very good, but it does away with the mechanism which only lets you select reverse by pressing down on lever
      could be nasty.

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      • s2driveruk
        Super Moderator
        • Jul 2003
        • 12696
        • Country: England

        #4
        one other thing to remember is that the s2 transmission doesnt seem to like to be rushed. I seem to remember someone saying that it actually made it worse with a short shift - very clunky and jerky:eek2:

        David
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        • blu_s2
          S2Forum Addict
          • Jul 2003
          • 392
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436230598
          Jim

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          • Greg_S
            Administrator
            • Jul 2003
            • 12431
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            to reduce the clunky ness that is partly why im trying to get the snub mount developed which will cut down on this a bit.
            Greg

            S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

            '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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            • Martynf
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Jul 2003
              • 1885
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              I'll let you know how it works! I ordered one of those about 6 weeks ago! :eek2: I sent him a US Dollar bankers draft as per his request.. cost me £20 just for that!! HOWEVER!!!!!

              It hasn't arrived and he isn't answering my e-mails!!!! :confused:
              ???????????????????????

              Martyn
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              • raymor
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Sep 2003
                • 597
                • Country: Scotland

                #8
                I got one of the 'Billcatz' short shift kits from ebay about 5 months ago. Yes there's no reverse detent, which was a bit concerning at first, so I wired up a low frequency warning tone to the reversing light ( a la Lexus IS200, same shift patten, same possible selection error! ). So I'm in no doubt when I'm in reverse now. It avoids launching the car while in reverse..... that would be a real hoot for everyone else !

                The quality of the shift was a little sticky at first until the OEM bearing bedded down and I'd wondered if I'd done the right thing... but now the shift is quick, smooth and precise. If your gearbox is fresh, you won't experience a slow shift 1st to 2nd like I do, every other shift is crisp.. excellent.

                I think it's a stock VW shift bearing, Josh put a post on 'RS246' after I'd rated mine there, so he might be able to offer a little more info. Josh ?

                The cost, from the states £71.... a snip.
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                • Lee
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 1512
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  I've got a stripped out Scirocco for blasting around the lanes. This short shift looks like it uses a Scirocco MK2/Golf MK1 gear level bearing. Is this true? How is it modified? What additional parts are there. If it is scirocco/golf then I'm sure it would be cheaper to knock one together from new or scrapyard-sourced parts. Anyone have any more info?

                  Cheers, Lee
                  1995 S2 Avant with some upgrades

                  Designun Limited....
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                  • Audilard
                    S2Forum Fanatic
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 87
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    I have the billzcat on my cq here in the States. Although I don't have an S2 tranny/turbo etc. I can vouch for improvement over the stock setup. I can't give you a percentage of reduction, but it was noticeable and it greatly improved the sloppiness of the shifts. Granted, anytime you replace a 13 year old part you are going to notice a difference....
                    Darin
                    1989 Audi 80tq

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                    • Josh-stateside
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 741
                      • Country: United States

                      #11
                      ah crap.. I need to remember all this stuff again.


                      Depending on what tranny you have there are more proper allternatives.

                      I believe if you have the aby tranny you can use some like:

                      http://www.stratmosphere.com/shifters.htm

                      I don't comment on the vw stuff.. since I once was kicked off a email list ...

                      Don't even ask. I Don't comment on it, I don't mention it.

                      I like this forum alot.

                      I won't risk any voices of opinions on it.


                      But it's vw parts.. it's like 60 dollars worth of parts..

                      I am preity positve it's a vw golf II shift ball assembly.


                      It's late but I will get some part #s. Well If i can find them saved on my computer I will.

                      Cheers
                      Josh
                      I chose not to choose life: I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who need reasons when you've got quattro?

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                      • Martynf
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 1885
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        I fitted the Billzcat today on my ABY Avant, here: http://www.vagparts.com/s2/d2/shortshift.htm I would VERY much like to get the reverse gear lockout back though!! in the meantime, I've ordered one of these from the US, to at least warn me its in reverse http://www.designtech-intl.com:8080/...atid=12&step=4

                        Martyn
                        Last edited by Martynf; 1 November 2003, 21:39.
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                        • S2central.net
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 16590
                          • Country: Northern Ireland

                          #13
                          Wozzit like to drive now Martyn ?


                          Paul
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                          • Martynf
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 1885
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Pretty good Paul! the length of shift throw is reduced by about 30-40% I guess. It's a real nice 'snick' gear change now :-). Gear change is quicker without a doubt and feels smoother than it used to be, but I really do have to stress the reverse gear issue is cause for concern! That aside I think it great!

                            Martyn
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                            • S2central.net
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 16590
                              • Country: Northern Ireland

                              #15
                              What - it lets you select reverse without forcing the stcik down ?????:wacked: :wacked: :wacked: :wacked:

                              Paul
                              Paul Nugent
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                              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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