0.9 Bar WG spring measurements please

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  • Rusty
    Super Moderator
    • Jun 2004
    • 18953
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #31
    Originally posted by Jamo
    From the Audi20V_Kruemmer site
    Thanks Jamo, already received that in an email. The MTM spring is an absolute beast, calculated at 1.5 bar in a stock WG housing, a bit less with an adjuster screw, as MTM did. I'd be suprised if they used the WGFV at all with that bad boy
    Cheers'en, AndyC
    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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    • Rusty
      Super Moderator
      • Jun 2004
      • 18953
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #32
      Originally posted by S2central.net
      Somebody sent me a bed spring in the post - will it fit in the WG I wonder. Its a beasty thing...
      It fits alright, just make sure you've had your spinach before attempting to get it compressed Should give the boost levels we discussed, did on mine. Try it out with a stock WG cap and WGFV unplugged and report back, car feels a little spluttery on it, as you'd expect. Adjustable WG cap means that pre-load can be dropped by approx 25%. Part load is where you'll notice the difference, makes balancing the car on the throttle so much easier although you have to recalibrate the right foot in traffic. V stream almost feels laggy in comparison . I'm almost tempted to go the whole hog and get a 1.5bar spring in there...
      Cheers'en, AndyC
      1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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      • Rusty
        Super Moderator
        • Jun 2004
        • 18953
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #33
        Originally posted by Losgard
        Sorry for offtopic, but do someone know whats the differense in boost between having the wg-screw in bottom/top with original-spring?
        Fully wound out you're looking at 0.3 Bar

        Fully wound in you're looking at 0.6 Bar

        HTH

        Base setting with OE adjuster screw is with 10mm between screw top and cap top.
        Cheers'en, AndyC
        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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        • S2central.net
          Retired OG Mod
          • Jul 2003
          • 16590
          • Country: Northern Ireland

          #34
          I have a spare WG here with adjustable cap - will likely try it out on benchtest with compressor first just to get a feel for the beast...

          Then I'll try on the car with WGFV assistance being dialled in by emulator. I hope its not too snatchy and twitchy at part throttle with it wanting to build boost too quickly. That smoothness across the throttle pedal range is something that is nicely controllable by software in conjunction with a less rampant WG spring - so will be interesting to see how different it drives.
          Paul Nugent
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          • Rusty
            Super Moderator
            • Jun 2004
            • 18953
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #35
            The V stream more than adequately caters for those requiring refinement, this is a lot better for actually driving the car IMO. It only gets carried away if you leave your foot on the accelerator too long at 3k+. Suggest you give yourself a good hour to get used to it, it's very different to the dead pedal you get with the OE spring.

            You should be looking at 40mm between the cap and WG when fitting the spring.
            Cheers'en, AndyC
            1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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            • S2central.net
              Retired OG Mod
              • Jul 2003
              • 16590
              • Country: Northern Ireland

              #36
              I am going to double check positions - memory is of 25mm gap on an unmodified WG - which is my preference for an ideal position to start tweaking the software side of things... That may not be viable of course or we may need a tweak on this big bed spring to work at default setting...
              Paul Nugent
              Webmaster http://S2central.net
              Administrator http://S2forum.com

              1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

              Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

              There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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              • Rusty
                Super Moderator
                • Jun 2004
                • 18953
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #37
                OE spring gap is approx 46mm. my spring is 6mm shorter

                Fit it to a stock WG cap, i.e. as I've tested it and as it was designed to work and see what you get, should be as per figures in my PM
                Cheers'en, AndyC
                1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                • newsh
                  S2Forum Obsessed
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 16226
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #38
                  Originally posted by newt
                  Yeah, I understand all those points, and there's nothing wrong with information. Just offering that there's no need to re-invent the wheel if you're looking for a 1.9b spring, we can do group shipments to drastically cut down on costs. If someones going to do a run out there I wager we'd be able to beat whatever pricing was offered, including shipping. Plus we typically have a bunch in stock, so it's an off the shelf, no-wait order.
                  @ Newt, great avatar

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                  • newt
                    S2Forum Buff
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 40
                    • Country: United States

                    #39


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