starting discussion on the use of new VW 2.5L 5Cyl in Small Chassis

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  • jade
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jan 2005
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    • Home: New Zealand Current: Spain

    #166
    Thanks for your input, that was more or less my thoughts, but looking forward to seeing it in the flesh, what's involved in fixing the 07k to the transmission ?
    RS 2 580HP

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    • URQguy
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      • Sep 2008
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      #167
      The 01e is a direct bolt on once you remove the top two holes on the bellhousing like they did in the group b days to allow for faster gear changes. No adapter, no hassle. Just bolt it up. Same for the 01x and 01a. The new b8 I hve not tried personally but I know it bolts up from customer experiences. It needs slight trimming too on the bellhousing but nothing major.
      1981 URQuattro with the TIAL GT35r.
      2007 Infinity g35

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      • vag_nutter
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        • Sep 2009
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        #168
        Will the 07k bolt to the 016?

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        • URQguy
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          • Sep 2008
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          #169
          I haven't tried yet, but my hunch is no. The 07k shares the bellhousing pattern with the 1.8T, and just like the 1.8t, I do not think it will fit on an 016. I'll try one of these days and report back
          1981 URQuattro with the TIAL GT35r.
          2007 Infinity g35

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          • Mcstiff
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            • Oct 2004
            • 504
            • Country: United States

            #170
            Originally posted by URQguy
            My personal car will see a lot of weight saving tactics like this. I am coming from a tall deck 2.5L that has 10lb heavier crank over the AAN (52 vs 42 for the 95.5 vs 86.4) as well as a 15lb heavier block with the 236 deck compared to an AAN. That would put my fully assembled 2.55L at almost 475lbs or almost 100lbs heavier than Seans motor. If I could cut 125lbs off the nose of the car, I would be thrilled.
            Can't wait to see it!
            1995 1PissedOff90sigpic1991 USDM CQ 7aT

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            • |CL|NIKI
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              • Jun 2008
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              #171
              Is there a possibility to recognize which 2.5 engines are with forged crank?
              Or they all are with?
              Last edited by |CL|NIKI; 15 January 2014, 10:22.
              800HP 800++Nm

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              • |CL|NIKI
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                #172
                What about valves? They are 32/28mm diameter for the 5cyl 2.5, and 34/28mm for the 2.0l 4cyl. But what is the length and the stem diameter for the 5cyl? Are they the same as the aan/aby or not?
                Last edited by |CL|NIKI; 19 January 2014, 16:56.
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                • URQguy
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                  • Sep 2008
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                  #173
                  As far as we can tell, no real rhyme or reason to which have forged or not. TTRS is the only sure forged crank.

                  Yes, the 07k has 1.5mm smaller intakes than the FSI motors, which makes for an easy upgrade by simply using FSI seats and valves for FSI spec valvetrain.
                  1981 URQuattro with the TIAL GT35r.
                  2007 Infinity g35

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                  • |CL|NIKI
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                    #174
                    What are about the stem diameters and length? I mean are the AAN/ABY custom oversize valves will fit? Which company makes custom cams for those engines Hank?
                    800HP 800++Nm

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                    • elaw
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                      • Jun 2012
                      • 62
                      • Country: United States

                      #175
                      Hey a couple of random questions I haven't seen the answers for... looking around the 'net it appears there are earlier lower-HP and later higher-HP versions of this motor (the NA one). Is there any internal difference between the two? I guess what I'm really asking is if I go looking for one to turbo and put in my car, does it matter?

                      Second question: in all the photos in this thread I haven't seen a crank position sensor (or trigger wheel) anywhere... does it have one?
                      Be alert! America needs more lerts.
                      Eric Law
                      '90 80Q with AAN and Megasquirt
                      '97 Saab 9000 Aero: mostly stock but ECU tweaks to add fastness
                      '86 4KTQ: R.I.P.

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                      • URQguy
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                        • Sep 2008
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                        #176
                        Stems are 6mm and the length is standard FSI length.

                        Elaw, the 60-2 trigger wheel is located behind the crank and sandwiches between the crank and flywheel. The hall sender is in the oil pan towards the rear. It is very nice with great resolution up to 9700rpm so far. It is a 4 oz piece that is another attempt by VAG to make this i5 as light as possible. Just plug in the values for the TB TDC and car starts up!

                        Hank
                        1981 URQuattro with the TIAL GT35r.
                        2007 Infinity g35

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                        • meep
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                          • May 2005
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                          #177
                          Cams wise how far do the stock cams take you? What are the specs? Should be half decent since its a NA engine from the start no?
                          Last edited by meep; 17 February 2014, 20:47.

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                          • URQguy
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                            • Sep 2008
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                            #178
                            A few hicups on oiling issues, but they are sorted now. Results are looking promising. 570whp/512wtq on e85 at 25psi on bone stock head 90k head, carbon on valves included. Sounds proper. Needs more than the effective 1300cc inejctors we are running now to make more power and rev to 8500. Duty cycle is limiting to around 7300 in these vids. Still, good power band of aroudn 4200-7200
                            Last edited by URQguy; 16 February 2014, 07:39.
                            1981 URQuattro with the TIAL GT35r.
                            2007 Infinity g35

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                            • Pat D
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                              • Dec 2011
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                              #179
                              Video isn't working Hank?
                              ABY S2 stroker (work in progress)

                              B5 1.8T quattro

                              B4 2.3 (decommissioned)

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                              • URQguy
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                                • Sep 2008
                                • 245
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                                #180
                                hmmm. try the direct paste n copy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbwZRrEsSQQ
                                1981 URQuattro with the TIAL GT35r.
                                2007 Infinity g35

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