Audi 80 B4 quattro 2.3 20v

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  • mihai_antony
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Nov 2011
    • 150
    • Country: Romania

    #31
    Hello

    Nice car! Also i have a 7A engine in my b4
    What was the problem with no spark?

    Mihai

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    • ventt
      S2Forum Buff
      • Aug 2015
      • 49
      • Country: Estonia

      #32
      First of all, I made it sure that my notch(?) on the flywheel exists, after that I turned the crank until the G4 (or was it G28, don't remember) sensor and flywheel notch were facing each other. Then I took the distributor out and put it's empty hole or whatever facing with the hall sensor. I went this way because when I aligned the factory marks, no spark. After that I made sure that all my ground connections are good and ran fine.

      EDIT:



      Like this, found this picture from this forum.

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      • Spyform
        S2Forum Addict
        • Mar 2016
        • 288
        • Country: Estonia

        #33
        watching this car))
        Audi S6 C4 2.2T Quattro 1997, full rebuild....
        Audi A5 Sportback V6 2.7 TDI 2011
        Volkswagen Phaeton V6 3.0 TDI 2009

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        • ventt
          S2Forum Buff
          • Aug 2015
          • 49
          • Country: Estonia

          #34
          Originally posted by Spyform
          watching this car))
          If you understand estonian language, http://foorum.audiclub.ee/viewthread.php?tid=154751 <- same car with a little bit more information since my english isn't my first language.

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          • mihai_antony
            S2Forum Enthusiast
            • Nov 2011
            • 150
            • Country: Romania

            #35
            Thank you very much, I will proceed
            But I don't understand this: "I went this way because when I aligned the factory marks, no spark"

            The factory marks were wrong and you made in another way?

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            • ventt
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              • Aug 2015
              • 49
              • Country: Estonia

              #36
              Originally posted by mihai_antony
              Thank you very much, I will proceed
              But I don't understand this: "I went this way because when I aligned the factory marks, no spark"

              The factory marks were wrong and you made in another way?
              When I aligned the flywheel 0 mark with the transmission window and aligned distributor marks, I didn't get any spark. Maybe it was because the V6 transmission, dunno.

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              • ventt
                S2Forum Buff
                • Aug 2015
                • 49
                • Country: Estonia

                #37
                Well, got the adapters long ago now...
                Still having problems with engine though.

                I've changed:
                * MAF
                * Injectors
                * FPR
                * Engine Speed Sensor



                Also my spark plugs are like this:



                If it's cold, it won't even rev to 2000rpm, it just wants to die.
                But if I let the engine go warm, then it'll rev to 3000rpm very nicely and quickly, then it gabbles (don't know the word for that lol) and about 5000rpm it starts to pull normal again.

                Checked the lambda sensor, it's ok according to my voltmeter. Is it knock sensors? So tired of that engine...

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                • RaikAAAA
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                  • Aug 2010
                  • 23
                  • Country: Estonia

                  #38
                  Where is turbo? can`t see

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                  • Bowie69
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                    • Nov 2013
                    • 2675
                    • Country: England

                    #39
                    Sounds like knock sensors?

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                    • nicka90q
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                      • Sep 2012
                      • 42
                      • Country: Serbia

                      #40
                      Can you tell me what number of those injectors?
                      I'm looking to buy them and do the conversion.

                      I hope you resolve these problems quickly.

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                      • Bowie69
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                        • Nov 2013
                        • 2675
                        • Country: England

                        #41
                        Oh, and plugs look fine.

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                        • ventt
                          S2Forum Buff
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 49
                          • Country: Estonia

                          #42
                          Originally posted by RaikAAAA
                          Where is turbo? can`t see
                          I got a S4 avant which is almost a barn find now, hasn't been running for 10 years and 4.2 V8 + 6speed manual transmission, gonna fix this one when I have the 80 running. No turbo for me, maybe in the future and 1.8T, not 2.2T


                          Originally posted by Bowie69
                          Sounds like knock sensors?


                          Check this link, a little bit longer version of my problem.


                          Originally posted by nicka90q
                          Can you tell me what number of those injectors?
                          I'm looking to buy them and do the conversion.

                          I hope you resolve these problems quickly.
                          0280155759 and adapters from Epytec, though they are very hard to fit (leaks between the adapter and injector).
                          These injectors are a little bit too big, so I adjusted the fuel pressure to 4bar. Stock is 4.2bar.

                          Thanks


                          Originally posted by Bowie69
                          Oh, and plugs look fine.
                          Shouldn't they looking like coffee, not grey?

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                          • Bowie69
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 2675
                            • Country: England

                            #43
                            Originally posted by ventt
                            0280155759 and adapters from Epytec, though they are very hard to fit (leaks between the adapter and injector).
                            You are NOT the only one! Think I have narrowed my occasional fuel smell down ot these injectors, despite new o-rings.

                            IMHO they are too slack on the top o-ring, and there is nothing to stop the fuel rail going to **** which of course means the o-rings leak.

                            Originally posted by ventt
                            Shouldn't they looking like coffee, not grey?
                            They are very new, clean plugs, ceramic is still slightly cream, so would say not your problem, or an indiction of one.

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                            • ventt
                              S2Forum Buff
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 49
                              • Country: Estonia

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Bowie69
                              You are NOT the only one! Think I have narrowed my occasional fuel smell down ot these injectors, despite new o-rings.

                              IMHO they are too slack on the top o-ring, and there is nothing to stop the fuel rail going to **** which of course means the o-rings leak.



                              They are very new, clean plugs, ceramic is still slightly cream, so would say not your problem, or an indiction of one.
                              I modified my fuel rail for them to fit, then they started to leak between the intake manifold and injector, so I also modified the gasket between them.

                              And yeah, they are new (driven maybe 3000km before the swap).

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                              • ventt
                                S2Forum Buff
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 49
                                • Country: Estonia

                                #45
                                Got the power steering working, lines were switched ... Still haven't got the engine running though. Tried to change lambda probe today but half of it snapped inside the exhaust manifold.

                                Also tested the compression of the engine:
                                1cyl: 14bar
                                2cyl: 13bar
                                3cyl: 15bar
                                4cyl: 15bar
                                5cyl: 15bar

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