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  • Rocco
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    • Aug 2007
    • 6393
    • Country: Spain

    #286
    Originally posted by SteveH
    Your downpipe has obviously been leaking for some time as that crack hasn't happened overnight. It could be welded up when you take it off, however it would be wise to locate the source of the stress or it will happen again. Do you have a flexi section and it there any point where it's secured before it meets the main section of your system?

    Whas that the 20v box that's gone?
    i have not fitted any flexi,,,
    i saw a little crank the last winter ...but i forgot it and obviously it goes more and more,day a day...

    now i have to think what to do.
    the gearbox is 01A ASZ from coupe quattro 2.3 20v yes. Alex "Error404" sold me it.

    i did not ANY launch from stop with this gearbox...i only was trying pulls in 2,3,4 gears from 2000rpm . the gearbox was of course used before so it can be easy to expect it would go to broke .

    i dont know if the diesel or CRB,CBL,CGR 01E boxes are strongers with the gearing...so we can expect the same problem in a used one. because these ones are only stronger with the first gear and for launchs from stop true?

    too much torque,this is what happens

    Originally posted by Jamo
    The source of the problem is the use of the stock flexi, aside from being stupidly restrictive you should look to replace it as I bet it's been stretched to fit the aftermarket downpipe meaning it is "tugging" on the wastegate mate on the downpipe

    Really should replace these things with aftermarket downpipes
    like the one you have for sale?
    RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
    BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
    LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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    • Rocco
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      • Aug 2007
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      #287
      Ok,the car has been stripped and its ready to be almost 100% refreshed .

      The race engine with the rs4 gearbox are going to be installed inside the car + a refreshed new Audi V8 rear torsen diff

      Hope it works everything together now in the coupe.



















      RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
      BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
      LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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      • vertigone
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        • Nov 2009
        • 253
        • Country: France

        #288
        Nice work !
        Wish you the best :-)
        91' S2 3B Pearl White

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        • Error404
          Super Moderator
          • Mar 2007
          • 19789
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #289
          Originally posted by Rocco
          I have eaten my second gearbox .I'm stopped with the coupe in my testing road.

          3 gear died at 6500 rpm and 1.6 bar
          I wondered how long this little 20v gearbox would last with 550nm - actually it survived longer than I though it would!

          Do you know which part broke?

          You need to be careful with the TORsen rear diff too, they are not very strong
          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
          Indigo ABY coupé
          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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          • Rocco
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            • Aug 2007
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            #290
            Originally posted by Error404
            I wondered how long this little 20v gearbox would last with 550nm - actually it survived longer than I though it would!

            Do you know which part broke?

            You need to be careful with the TORsen rear diff too, they are not very strong
            i did not inspect it

            also maybe i had more torque than 550nm


            we will see what happen with the rear diff,it should hold i think because i am not going to track the car very much....so i hope to have it cold
            Last edited by Rocco; 29 July 2012, 09:30.
            RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
            BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
            LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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            • Rocco
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              • Aug 2007
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              #291
              massive refreshing job done in the coupe ,and also in the competition






















              RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
              BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
              LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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              • Rocco
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                • Aug 2007
                • 6393
                • Country: Spain

                #292
                intake ports in the race engine





                RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                • Rocco
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                  • Aug 2007
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                  #293






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                  BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
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                  • Rocco
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                    • Aug 2007
                    • 6393
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                    #294
                    Unfortunately,we don't know why but the engine doesn't work well.



                    It seems to be enrichment like crazy!
                    Lots of black smoke...

                    We've tried many things and we are thinking that it needs to be mapped again!!

                    Same engine,same everything except the body shell and the WIRING LOOM ,now from a 3b car....converted to Aan ecu of course.


                    We are tired for today

                    Check the video

                    RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                    BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                    LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                    • AndyP
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                      • Feb 2004
                      • 6049
                      • Country: England

                      #295
                      Doesn't sound happy does it I doubt it's a problem with the map, maps don't go wrong, electrical / mechanical parts go wrong. Check carefully for leaks and try checking for fault codes, and make sure everything has been plugged back in properly
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                      1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
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                      • Rocco
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                        • Aug 2007
                        • 6393
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                        #296
                        Originally posted by AndyP
                        Doesn't sound happy does it I doubt it's a problem with the map, maps don't go wrong, electrical / mechanical parts go wrong. Check carefully for leaks and try checking for fault codes, and make sure everything has been plugged back in properly
                        well...we have tried 2 different ECU and 400kpa maps,different coils and the same...


                        BUT, we were talking now thinking about the OLD leaks in the intake system and manifold ....

                        so we have mapped the car with lots of small leaks ,and Dmitri will say but "we thought" everything was 95%Ok and the car was pretty and scary fast¡¡...also with the leaks .... making 2.5 FAT times and pushing something like 570/80 Hp...

                        i was having very hard problems with the iddle,the car dieing whem the revs dropped and NOW,with every leak solved it looks like the old mapping could be affected now? because before the engine was reading for example "100points" of air in the MAF + the extra 10 points because the leaks... so i am not sure about this but the ECU could be pushing fuel XX for every 100MAF points + the extra 10 points from the leaks and NOW,with everything almost perfect and holes welded(yes holes welded ) the ECU could be reading 100 MAF points = XX fuel like it was doing before BUT with the difference that he needs the extra 10 POINTS FROM THE LEAKS??? making the mixture too rich right now??

                        every plugg seems to be perfectly connected also,swaped coils,ecu,Map....and the same


                        we also tried to install 3B injectors to check the behaviour and it worked bit better¡¡
                        also tried to make a cheat with another TPS.... and the engine started to work and sounding AWESOME passing the 4K revs...like a rocket¡

                        the cheat was connecting the cheat one like if it was iddling and the rear thorttle body open to 3000/4000revs ....and then started to works very good....

                        so we are thinking that maybe i need again a remap

                        the leaks before were :

                        Fuel rail moving
                        injectors bubbling with water/soap
                        iddle valve pipe leaking where connects with the manifold
                        Maf bad installed
                        Metal pipe between turbo coldside and Maf....where a right silicone elbow is now
                        holes X4 where the OLD crap catch tank was installed by someone clever in the cheap (1500€) Dhalback intake manifold¡¡

                        if the reason is this.....at least we now the solution...that it is something

                        also...if the car was pretty fast with that crap installation...i dont want to imagine with everything well connected

                        i am starting to believe the 608Hp dyno draw that Vadim did before sell me the complete engine bay... too good to be true with this "tiny" turbo
                        RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                        BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                        LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                        • Rocco
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                          • Aug 2007
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                          #297
                          ah¡¡ forgot it, now the car looks to iddle PERFECTLY ¡¡

                          so the iddling problems were the leaks for sure¡¡
                          RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                          BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                          LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                          • Rocco
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                            • Aug 2007
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                            #298
                            SHE WOKE UP¡¡¡¡




                            is running again ¡¡ but now almost like a new car

                            now i am going to sell the 80 Competition with the 3B engine and stock turbo,etc etc


                            this race engine takes revs like a motorbike
                            RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                            BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                            LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                            • quattrostyle
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                              • Oct 2006
                              • 6229
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                              #299
                              finally mate

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                              • Rocco
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                                • Aug 2007
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                                #300
                                Originally posted by quattrostyle
                                finally mate
                                yes, but it needs the final details.... like the installation of the AC,Wagner IC ( the Ebay Big one works superb but it weights more)
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