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  • lind4hl
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jul 2008
    • 2465
    • Country: Sweden

    #166
    Originally posted by dubmeister


    TURBOS SUCK!!!!!
    yeah but when silicon gets hot it expands. so it could fall off during no throttle or something, better be safe than sorry..

    yeah.i know turbos suck there...

    One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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    • lind4hl
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Jul 2008
      • 2465
      • Country: Sweden

      #167
      also, why should you do something not 100% since this car is 100% in the engine overall

      One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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      • A80Avant
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Sep 2005
        • 10873
        • Country: Greece

        #168
        by the way, i noticed that you will be using the mushroom filter although it is being trashed as being one of the worst.
        i already have that filter to use and it makes me wonder...

        what do you think?

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        • newsh
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          • Aug 2003
          • 16226
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #169
          Originally posted by lind4hl
          also, why should you do something not 100% since this car is 100% in the engine overall
          I would use a silicon hose there and some simple clamps, the engine and turbo will move around a little and the tube is going through the inner wing so you dont want it rigidly attached.
          Great work James BTW! Your welding is looking nice!

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          • prosty
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Jun 2005
            • 1114
            • Country: Sweden

            #170
            Silicone can withstand about ~220-250 degrees celcius therefore problem with heat and expansion if you just tighten the clamp
            It never gets that hot on the intake side
            The blue silicon hoses that already are on the engine will look great to the turbo inlet, think about serviceability, not fun to remove the front bumper everytime you have to check the turbo or pressuretest the system.

            Also a hint if you're going with MAF on the hotside is to build a water splash shield infront of the airfilter, this will help in tuning regarding idling and also as a protection from water, can be rainy over there
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            • terrybullwon
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2006
              • 8782
              • Country: England

              #171
              Originally posted by A80Avant
              by the way, i noticed that you will be using the mushroom filter although it is being trashed as being one of the worst.
              i already have that filter to use and it makes me wonder...

              what do you think?
              Not really sure lots of conflicting views

              Originally posted by newsh
              I would use a silicon hose there and some simple clamps, the engine and turbo will move around a little and the tube is going through the inner wing so you dont want it rigidly attached.
              Great work James BTW! Your welding is looking nice!
              Thanks John, Not all the welding is mine i am having lessons whilst doing my own work

              There is a 40mm gap either side of the pipe work incase the engine moves under load or braking. It has solid motor mounts so i guessing i will not see alot?

              The Filter will have a 5mm beed around it and then clamped on for good luck
              Chef

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              • terrybullwon
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Mar 2006
                • 8782
                • Country: England

                #172
                Originally posted by prosty
                Silicone can withstand about ~220-250 degrees celcius therefore problem with heat and expansion if you just tighten the clamp
                It never gets that hot on the intake side
                The blue silicon hoses that already are on the engine will look great to the turbo inlet, think about serviceability, not fun to remove the front bumper everytime you have to check the turbo or pressuretest the system.

                Also a hint if you're going with MAF on the hotside is to build a water splash shield infront of the airfilter, this will help in tuning regarding idling and also as a protection from water, can be rainy over there
                Well, i checked this out.

                I can remove the cold side and pull the pipe work through really easy, then to remove the filter i can do this from the bumper.

                Car is running no MAF
                Chef

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                • Error404
                  Super Moderator
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 19789
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #173
                  yeah the HKS filters are 5hlt at filtration but they flow really well. You pays your money and you takes your choice i guess.
                  Its no exactly going to be a daily driver though so in reality i'm sure it'll be fine
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                  • Jonnybravo
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 2051
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #174
                    Originally posted by G60Rallye
                    Nice looking progress, great to see you are doing so much of it yourself!

                    That blue focus is Andrew Gallachers car and I am pretty sure he made it himself didn't he Jonnybravo?
                    Yes its Andrews car, although the exhaust was made in house he mentioned it being a " Meerkat" system, I presume its someone he knows who specialises in that sort of thing although to be fair I would think he is more than capable judging on the rest of the build !

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                    • Audi_CQ
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 940
                      • Country: Norway

                      #175
                      Originally posted by terrybullwon
                      Well I think it should be fine, it will flow enough that's for sure
                      With that size flow should be OK
                      Are you going for side exit? In that case I understand the turns.

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                      • terrybullwon
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 8782
                        • Country: England

                        #176
                        Originally posted by Audi_CQ
                        With that size flow should be OK
                        Are you going for side exit? In that case I understand the turns.
                        Spot on Roger
                        Chef

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                        • javispa
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 292
                          • Country: Spain

                          #177
                          Mmm... James, I was wondering... if you are not running MAF, why do you move tha air filter to that position?
                          I think that Doug and Mark Halligan (correct me if I am wrong) have the air filter attatched to the turbo. Do you think that it is a worse choice than yours?
                          Cheers!
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                          • lind4hl
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 2465
                            • Country: Sweden

                            #178
                            Originally posted by javispa
                            Mmm... James, I was wondering... if you are not running MAF, why do you move tha air filter to that position?
                            I think that Doug and Mark Halligan (correct me if I am wrong) have the air filter attatched to the turbo. Do you think that it is a worse choice than yours?
                            Cheers!


                            The air is colder there than in the engine compartment

                            colder air= more power

                            One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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                            • javispa
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 292
                              • Country: Spain

                              #179
                              Originally posted by lind4hl
                              The air is colder there than in the engine compartment

                              colder air= more power
                              Obvious... Should have thought that. But... do you think it would make a big difference? I mean, the air will be compressed A LOT, and will get much hotter. I suppose that if James has decided to do that is because it is worth done, but it still makes me wonder if the difference will be noticeable.
                              Thanks Lind4hl.
                              Cheers.
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                              • Jamo
                                Retired OG Mod
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 21750
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #180
                                Originally posted by javispa
                                Obvious... Should have thought that. But... do you think it would make a big difference? I mean, the air will be compressed A LOT, and will get much hotter. I suppose that if James has decided to do that is because it is worth done, but it still makes me wonder if the difference will be noticeable.
                                Thanks Lind4hl.
                                Cheers.
                                Makes a huge difference, mounted off the turbo your pulling in hot air and you'd need a cool air feed. The solution above kills two birds with one stone.

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