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  • Biturbo
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Aug 2011
    • 591
    • Home: Lithuania Current: United Kingdom

    #61
    Originally posted by Thuppu
    Don't use lighter hydraulic lifters, they crush easily. Go solid lifter route if you want less weight.

    BTW, really nice project and good results.


    PS. Stock pistons hold for about 800hp.
    Thanks for advise,I didn't now that lighter hydraulic lifters crush easily.Then will go for solid ones

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    • Error404
      Super Moderator
      • Mar 2007
      • 19789
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #62
      Good to see your car today mate, you have put a lot of work into it. I am sure you will get some quick times next year
      Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
      Indigo ABY coupé
      Imola B6 S4 Avant

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      • will20v
        S2Forum Addict
        • May 2007
        • 391
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #63
        if you go solid lifter you will also need cams to match

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        • kamuto
          S2Forum Fanatic
          • Oct 2009
          • 83
          • Country: Lithuania

          #64
          Originally posted by will20v
          if you go solid lifter you will also need cams to match
          not allways, we are using 7a cams with solid lifters in our s4, it just takes some time to adjust them correct.

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          • will20v
            S2Forum Addict
            • May 2007
            • 391
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #65
            as far as i know if you use solid lifters on hydraulic cams it will wear the cams ?

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            • kamuto
              S2Forum Fanatic
              • Oct 2009
              • 83
              • Country: Lithuania

              #66
              Originally posted by will20v
              as far as i know if you use solid lifters on hydraulic cams it will wear the cams ?
              don't know that thing, will check it when I'll measure gaps between cam and lifters, we have ran that car for one race season with these lifters.

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              • will20v
                S2Forum Addict
                • May 2007
                • 391
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #67
                so the damage could already be done

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                • kamuto
                  S2Forum Fanatic
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 83
                  • Country: Lithuania

                  #68
                  Originally posted by will20v
                  so the damage could already be done
                  I don't think there will be any damage at all in couple of thousand kilometers, we have few audi running 10s with that setup, third season, no problems as I know.

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                  • will20v
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • May 2007
                    • 391
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #69
                    not sure how relavent your 1/4 mile time is to camshaft wear but anyhow im sure its fine if all your cars are fine. 2000km is about 1500miles or near . i like my engines to last at lot longer thats why i mentioned it so people driving road cars wouldnt have ant issues.

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                    • kamuto
                      S2Forum Fanatic
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 83
                      • Country: Lithuania

                      #70
                      Originally posted by will20v
                      not sure how relavent your 1/4 mile time is to camshaft wear but anyhow im sure its fine if all your cars are fine. 2000km is about 1500miles or near . i like my engines to last at lot longer thats why i mentioned it so people driving road cars wouldnt have ant issues.
                      1/4 time means it had hard springs, 8000+ rpm, I agree, in day car it can have some issues after long mileage.

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                      • blackS2
                        S2Forum Addict
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 455
                        • Country: Germany

                        #71
                        but remember, cams for solid lifters have a steeper rampup than hydo... so they have faster open and close time... ... I would assume real problems will occur if doing it vice versa... but only my 5cent
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                        • FCP-ENGINEERING
                          S2Forum Enthusiast
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 173
                          • Country: Lithuania

                          #72
                          Solid lifters with hydraulic cams, can work without any problem just, you loose 0,15-0,2mm of valve lift and some grad. That's all. Also after some millage you must change shims.
                          Audi S4 2.6 20V STROKER kkk26/27

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                          • will20v
                            S2Forum Addict
                            • May 2007
                            • 391
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #73
                            7a cams are 212deg so not much good for high revs anyhoo

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                            • blackS2
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 455
                              • Country: Germany

                              #74
                              Originally posted by blackS2
                              but remember, cams for solid lifters have a steeper rampup than hydo... so they have faster open and close time... ... I would assume real problems will occur if doing it vice versa... but only my 5cent
                              what I would say was...(sorry for my bad english) Problems using solid cams with hydraulic lifters (vice versa) and no or minor problems with hydraulic cams and solid lifers... but true you loose lift compared to solid cam/solid lifters when doing this...
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                              • Audi_CQ
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 940
                                • Country: Norway

                                #75
                                Originally posted by will20v
                                7a cams are 212deg so not much good for high revs anyhoo
                                For 99,9% of forum members there something else then 7A cams that will hold back power at higher revs

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