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  • quattro-nick
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Sep 2012
    • 1746
    • Country: Belgium

    #391
    i agree with alex,when i had my oil pressure problems in the past there was also grind into the oil thermostat Due to the faltered bearings
    if you think the problem is due to poor oil cooling than I think there must be more bad bearings in your engine.............
    no crank damage?
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    • diesel des
      S2Forum Possessed
      • Feb 2004
      • 3896

      #392
      Originally posted by S2central.net
      Really annoying but at least you know now... she was sounding fantastic in those video flybys - what is the sound limit at Kirkistown these days out of interest ?
      Not sure but the Quattro was actually not that loud compared to some stuff.

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      • V6quattro
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Sep 2008
        • 949
        • Country: Netherlands

        #393
        Must be a Honda Civic then right
        1360kg/600Whp Avant 0-200km/h 9sec

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        • diesel des
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Feb 2004
          • 3896

          #394
          Originally posted by quattro-nick
          i agree with alex,when i had my oil pressure problems in the past there was also grind into the oil thermostat Due to the faltered bearings
          if you think the problem is due to poor oil cooling than I think there must be more bad bearings in your engine.............
          no crank damage?
          Crank will need a polish or even a light grind on number 3 rod. Its real odd as this has clearly been an oil issue with the tappets getting noisy and then the bearing failure but I had good oil pressure and 4.6l of oil drained from the sump so I don't know. The only thing I can see is this oil thermostat issue and as the cooler was cold then it all seems to point in that direction?

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          • diesel des
            S2Forum Possessed
            • Feb 2004
            • 3896

            #395
            Originally posted by V6quattro
            Must be a Honda Civic then right
            Yep some noisy Honda's and bmw. And an astra with a sabb engine?

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            • mcandmar
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Apr 2004
              • 5118
              • Country: Ireland

              #396
              Gutted to hear this Des, what a kick in the *****.

              I cant remember the layout of the oil passages, but isn't the head supply taken from one of the big end oil feeds? Just wondering if something went wrong in the head which was bleeding off the oil pressure, and in turn lowering the supply pressure to that big end. Would explain the noisy lifters...
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              • diesel des
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Feb 2004
                • 3896

                #397
                Originally posted by mcandmar
                Gutted to hear this Des, what a kick in the *****.

                I cant remember the layout of the oil passages, but isn't the head supply taken from one of the big end oil feeds? Just wondering if something went wrong in the head which was bleeding off the oil pressure, and in turn lowering the supply pressure to that big end. Would explain the noisy lifters...
                I think the gallery that has the oil pressure sensor also feeds the head and the crank. But it's something I definitely will be checking out.

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                • mcandmar
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 5118
                  • Country: Ireland

                  #398
                  Exactly, you have the two pressure senders and the check valve in the head feed, but i think it might be the no3 big end that feeds it. Point is the two are related, or possibly it was the failing big end bearing that starved the head of oil pressure causing the noisy tappets.
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                  93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
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                  • Error404
                    Super Moderator
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 19789
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #399
                    Have you checked the mains yet? Often a problem with the main takes out the corresponding big end.
                    From memory the head is fed off the main gallery from the filter that supplies the mains.
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                    • diesel des
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 3896

                      #400
                      Mains are fine but I am replacing them too. Left the crank in for inspection and repair. The tappets started getting noisy after the first proper hard launch and run up the road. Then the noise cleared up after idling a while. Oil pressure and level were ok. Then I went to the track and as soon as things heated up I had the top end knock again. Then after a few laps the bottom end knock.

                      I don't think the first time I heard the tappet knock the bearing was damaged. If it was then oil pressure that I measure on the very gallery that feeds the head and no 3 would surely be reduced? No?

                      It's an odd one.

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                      • Thuppu
                        S2Forum Freak
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 4115
                        • Country: Finland

                        #401
                        What kind of sump baffles do you use?

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                        • diesel des
                          S2Forum Possessed
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 3896

                          #402



                          This is my sump. I might try another one with a oil return for my catch can at the front. At the moment I use the sump plug position as a drain.

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                          • V6quattro
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 949
                            • Country: Netherlands

                            #403
                            So all the other bearings are fine? Then i cant be oil starvation right?

                            Why do you have holes on the sump baffle? It wont keep the oil from going up the engine on acceleration. I just used a simple plate to prevent the oil going up and it also blocks the breather. It works very good I don't even use a oil return for my catch can.
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                            • diesel des
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 3896

                              #404
                              One of the other big end bearings looks stressed but did not spin. My thinking is that it must be an oil issue as I had the tappet noise and the spun bearing.

                              The sump was bought like that. I think some holes are required to let sump return to the sump?

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                              • diesel des
                                S2Forum Possessed
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 3896

                                #405
                                The other stressed bearing.



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