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  • Jeffer
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jul 2003
    • 2057
    • Country: Netherlands

    #91
    The same steps I did on the engine itself. On TDC the piston crown is about the same height as the deck. So what I did was to lower the piston the thicknes of the headgasket. Then I cc'ed that out and did the maths with the cc's that I measered from the head. Then you have the total CC of the combustion chamber. It was between 60 and 60,4 cc in total. That made the CR a little bit to high 'bout 8,5 was it. After calculating what thickness of extra headgasket I would have to add to accomplish CR 8:1. That was 1 mm. I combined 2 metal headgaskets to make one. I only needed the middle layer. So I drilled out the rivets of both and made one thicker gasket. Now the CR is 8:1
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    Last edited by Jeffer; 1 October 2004, 15:17.
    RS2 Black - stock 315 HP
    RS2 RS blau - stock 315 HP
    Sport Quattro - 1005 HP
    High Octane website

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    • Jeffer
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Jul 2003
      • 2057
      • Country: Netherlands

      #92
      Meanwhile the head is on, and the camcover painted in Halligan wrinkle
      Aswell as the Wagner IM, I painted that in wrinkle paint aswell. Looks great, need to take a pic of that.



      Jeffry
      Attached Files
      RS2 Black - stock 315 HP
      RS2 RS blau - stock 315 HP
      Sport Quattro - 1005 HP
      High Octane website

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      • SteveH
        Super Moderator
        • Jul 2003
        • 4460
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #93
        Looking very nice indeed
        91 Modded 3B
        14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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        • Jeffer
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Jul 2003
          • 2057
          • Country: Netherlands

          #94
          Originally posted by SteveH
          Looking very nice indeed
          Thanks

          Tonight I'm mounting Hydro's and 7A cams
          RS2 Black - stock 315 HP
          RS2 RS blau - stock 315 HP
          Sport Quattro - 1005 HP
          High Octane website

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          • S2central.net
            Retired OG Mod
            • Jul 2003
            • 16590
            • Country: Northern Ireland

            #95
            Hey Jeffer - some serious engineering going on there. Looking good... Some folks poo-poo the idea of using two gaskets the way you have, but let us know how you get on with that. The combination of an exotic bottom-end, CR=8.0 and a K29 compressor at full chat should be errrrr 'FUN' when it gets up to speed. Would also like honest views on lag, driveability midrange as well !


            Paul
            Paul Nugent
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            2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
            2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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            • Doug_RS2
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              • Jul 2003
              • 3847
              • Home: Scotland Current: England

              #96
              did you use 2nd headgasket centre next to the other headgasket centre? Without a compression layer in between? Can you expalin that a bit more?

              It looks real nice.
              S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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              • Jeffer
                S2Forum Fiend
                • Jul 2003
                • 2057
                • Country: Netherlands

                #97
                Originally posted by Doug_RS2
                did you use 2nd headgasket centre next to the other headgasket centre? Without a compression layer in between? Can you expalin that a bit more?

                It looks real nice.
                I used the 1 mm layer and te thinner silver/chroom like layer to seal it of.
                RS2 Black - stock 315 HP
                RS2 RS blau - stock 315 HP
                Sport Quattro - 1005 HP
                High Octane website

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                • Jeffer
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 2057
                  • Country: Netherlands

                  #98
                  Originally posted by S2central.net
                  Hey Jeffer - some serious engineering going on there. Looking good... Some folks poo-poo the idea of using two gaskets the way you have, but let us know how you get on with that. The combination of an exotic bottom-end, CR=8.0 and a K29 compressor at full chat should be errrrr 'FUN' when it gets up to speed. Would also like honest views on lag, driveability midrange as well !


                  Paul
                  I hope it will poo-poo like hell haha.
                  No serious, I think it is a very plausible solution to ad just the middle layer and the sealing layer from a second headgasket. No way that's going to blow out. What I'm still after are the torque settings of the ARP headstuds.
                  The next mayer step for us to do is the exhaust manifold welding. Then everything is done and I head of to Mihnea

                  I have no clue what I'm 'bout to expect from this setup. Driveability isn't really a big factor for me, and I don't mind lag. 75% of the time I drive it it will be in traffic Jams.
                  My goal is at least 500 BHP. off course I put my hopes on more then that.

                  As soon as we get on the road I'll let you guys know on drivability en boost lag etc.

                  RS2 Black - stock 315 HP
                  RS2 RS blau - stock 315 HP
                  Sport Quattro - 1005 HP
                  High Octane website

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                  • Jeffer
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 2057
                    • Country: Netherlands

                    #99
                    Mihnea and I did some calculations on the gearbox and the topspeed. In a special program you have to add all the ratio's of the gearbox and torque/HP of the car along with wheel sizes and drag CO. After putting in those data we came to a top speed of............................330 something km/h at 7600 rpm
                    That was mainly because the EDU has a very long 5 th and 6th gear.

                    FYI
                    RS2 Black - stock 315 HP
                    RS2 RS blau - stock 315 HP
                    Sport Quattro - 1005 HP
                    High Octane website

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                    • S2central.net
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 16590
                      • Country: Northern Ireland

                      #100
                      Holy moley - can you share that program ?

                      I don't have any calcs for aerodynamic drag and how that effects top speed etc ...


                      Paul
                      Paul Nugent
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                      1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                      2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                      2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                      Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                      There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                      • Jeffer
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 2057
                        • Country: Netherlands

                        #101
                        You have to ask Mihnea, he had it on his laptop

                        Originally posted by S2central.net
                        Holy moley - can you share that program ?

                        I don't have any calcs for aerodynamic drag and how that effects top speed etc ...


                        Paul
                        RS2 Black - stock 315 HP
                        RS2 RS blau - stock 315 HP
                        Sport Quattro - 1005 HP
                        High Octane website

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                        • Doug_RS2
                          S2Forum Possessed
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 3847
                          • Home: Scotland Current: England

                          #102
                          I hope this helps you with the head studs:

                          Keep up the good work
                          Attached Files
                          S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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                          • Jeffer
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 2057
                            • Country: Netherlands

                            #103
                            Originally posted by Doug_RS2
                            I hope this helps you with the head studs:

                            Keep up the good work
                            Thanks Doug!
                            RS2 Black - stock 315 HP
                            RS2 RS blau - stock 315 HP
                            Sport Quattro - 1005 HP
                            High Octane website

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                            • Jeffer
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 2057
                              • Country: Netherlands

                              #104
                              *update*

                              Hopefully all the materials comes in this week for the exhaust manifold. That's the last bid that needs to be made. Aluminium flywheel is balanced. Engine is back in one piece. Wagner IM is also painted wrinkle finish black. Looks the Dogs! The paint covers the rough surface of the manifold nicely
                              Will post some pics of that. Homemade catchtank is finished and polished
                              Now its "only" the EM welding.

                              keep you posted.
                              RS2 Black - stock 315 HP
                              RS2 RS blau - stock 315 HP
                              Sport Quattro - 1005 HP
                              High Octane website

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                              • Doug_RS2
                                S2Forum Possessed
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 3847
                                • Home: Scotland Current: England

                                #105
                                Are you going to sell EMs ? How much for them?

                                I am going to paint my inlet manifold withteh wrinkle stuf jsut to hide the work I have done on my modded aan - sorry for copying you and Mark - but it just look awesome!
                                S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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