Porsche 996 & 323x30 disc question

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • S2central.net
    Retired OG Mod
    • Jul 2003
    • 16590
    • Country: Northern Ireland

    #1

    Porsche 996 & 323x30 disc question

    Does this fit 100% fine under S2 16" Avus using RS2 caliper carriers or is 314x30 the maximum disc that can be accomodated ?

    Tried unsuccessfully to find a concrete answer to that here !


    Paul
    Paul Nugent
    Webmaster http://S2central.net
    Administrator http://S2forum.com

    1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
    2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
    2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

    Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

    There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't
  • martinjs
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Jul 2003
    • 3205
    • Country: England

    #2
    Paul, newsh is running 314 disks with 996 calipers and i think there is a couple of mm clearence, so i dont think it will.
    Plus you'd need a few washers to space the caliper out if using a 323 disk with RS2 brackets. Not ideal IMHO

    Comment

    • S2central.net
      Retired OG Mod
      • Jul 2003
      • 16590
      • Country: Northern Ireland

      #3
      I thought the 323x30 worked fine without spacers... Haven't read all the posts on this - would really like to capture the highlights onto S2 Central and a sticky thread here.
      Paul Nugent
      Webmaster http://S2central.net
      Administrator http://S2forum.com

      1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
      2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
      2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

      Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

      There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

      Comment

      • S2 Ant
        S2Forum Possessed
        • Jul 2003
        • 3682
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        yeh precise information would be good as ive tried going thru it a number of times for various things and nothing is totally clear really.

        Concise information is whats needed, like that info suggested about the SEAT mounting brackets, nobody ever confirmed if they are suitable.
        Ant

        2007 Mk5 Golf GTi, 3 door, DSG, REVO Stg 2 and other goodies
        2011 Kawasaki Z1000

        Comment

        • NoNonsense
          Forum Sponsor
          • Apr 2004
          • 673
          • Home: Italy Current: United States

          #5
          Originally posted by S2central.net
          I thought the 323x30 worked fine without spacers... Haven't read all the posts on this - would really like to capture the highlights onto S2 Central and a sticky thread here.
          these are 314x30 with 996 calipers under 17" wheels:
          Joe "NoNonsense"
          axis motorsport
          joe@axismotorsport.com

          "At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go back in the same box."

          Comment

          • Jamo
            Retired OG Mod
            • Mar 2004
            • 21750
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Alistair C had to machine the disc to 308 mm on my car to get them to fit correctly

            Paul

            See: http://www.slybadger.com/cars/s2/brakedetail.htm

            Comment

            • martinjs
              S2Forum Possessed
              • Jul 2003
              • 3205
              • Country: England

              #7
              Agreed, it does all get a tad confusing.
              Alistair used RS2 brackets when he did his conversion (jamos car) with 314 disks but altered to 304mm?? due to fouling.
              What is the size of the RS2 disk (not the upgrade option disk)?

              Ive never bothered looking at RS2 brackets because they cost a small fortune when i started my conversion, so i decided to make my own.
              They are cheaper now though i think.

              So in other words, im not much help, i'll get me coat

              Comment

              • martinjs
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Jul 2003
                • 3205
                • Country: England

                #8
                beat me to it jamo :0

                Comment

                • 90quattrocoupe
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 771
                  • Country: United States

                  #9
                  Originally posted by S2central.net
                  Does this fit 100% fine under S2 16" Avus using RS2 caliper carriers or is 314x30 the maximum disc that can be accomodated ?

                  Tried unsuccessfully to find a concrete answer to that here !
                  Paul
                  The difference in the rotors from 314 to 323 doesn't make a difference in the clearance of the wheel to the caliper. The 996 caliper on a RS2 carrier stays in the same place. Actually the brake pads are more centered on the 323 than the 314. The pad on location on the 314 is actually 1mm outside the rotor.

                  I did this write up for the Fourtitude forum. I may answer most of the questions. It has pictures 314 vs. 323 A8 rotors.

                  These are the pieces needed for upgrading a coupe from brake system to use Porsche 996 brakes. This model caliper comes on two different cars, the Porsche 996 or the Boxster S. The 996 brakes are black and the Boxster S brakes are red. It seems that you can get these calipers in silver...


                  Greg
                  They can have my car when they pry my cold dead fingers from the steering wheel.

                  Comment

                  • A1QSHIP
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 975
                    • Country: United States

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 90quattrocoupe
                    The difference in the rotors from 314 to 323 doesn't make a difference in the clearance of the wheel to the caliper. The 996 caliper on a RS2 carrier stays in the same place. Actually the brake pads are more centered on the 323 than the 314. The pad on location on the 314 is actually 1mm outside the rotor.

                    I did this write up for the Fourtitude forum. I may answer most of the questions. It has pictures 314 vs. 323 A8 rotors.

                    These are the pieces needed for upgrading a coupe from brake system to use Porsche 996 brakes. This model caliper comes on two different cars, the Porsche 996 or the Boxster S. The 996 brakes are black and the Boxster S brakes are red. It seems that you can get these calipers in silver...


                    Greg
                    @90Quattrocoupe,
                    What is the p/n of the 323x30 A8 (USA version) ?
                    Thanks, Chris
                    "Nulla tenaci invia est via"

                    Comment

                    • 90quattrocoupe
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 771
                      • Country: United States

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TECH48
                      @90Quattrocoupe,
                      What is the p/n of the 323x30 A8 (USA version) ?
                      Thanks, Chris
                      Chris,
                      No family album?

                      PN# 4D0615301J

                      Greg
                      They can have my car when they pry my cold dead fingers from the steering wheel.

                      Comment

                      • Alistair C
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 693

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 90quattrocoupe
                        The difference in the rotors from 314 to 323 doesn't make a difference in the clearance of the wheel to the caliper. The 996 caliper on a RS2 carrier stays in the same place. Actually the brake pads are more centered on the 323 than the 314. The pad on location on the 314 is actually 1mm outside the rotor.

                        I did this write up for the Fourtitude forum. I may answer most of the questions. It has pictures 314 vs. 323 A8 rotors.

                        These are the pieces needed for upgrading a coupe from brake system to use Porsche 996 brakes. This model caliper comes on two different cars, the Porsche 996 or the Boxster S. The 996 brakes are black and the Boxster S brakes are red. It seems that you can get these calipers in silver...


                        Greg
                        As that man said!
                        if you bash it all together with the 314 disks, the pads overlap the edge by a millimetre or 2.
                        With 323 disks, the calipers stay in the same place but the disk sticks out beyond the pads by a mm or 2. (No problem unless you wear a big lip on the edge and can't get the calipers off!)

                        The question as to whether it fits without fouling? ..... on mine it was too close for comfort. Others seem happy. I have loads of pics of mine showing what looks like enough clearance - but also the effects after just 5 days driving.

                        Comment

                        • A1QSHIP
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 975
                          • Country: United States

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 90quattrocoupe
                          Chris,
                          No family album?

                          PN# 4D0615301J

                          Greg
                          No ! I was to receive a copy but it did not come thru. I was told that this copy was only for US cars so I did not persue it. Can you help?
                          "Nulla tenaci invia est via"

                          Comment

                          • S2central.net
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 16590
                            • Country: Northern Ireland

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 90quattrocoupe
                            The difference in the rotors from 314 to 323 doesn't make a difference in the clearance of the wheel to the caliper. The 996 caliper on a RS2 carrier stays in the same place. Actually the brake pads are more centered on the 323 than the 314. The pad on location on the 314 is actually 1mm outside the rotor.

                            I did this write up for the Fourtitude forum. I may answer most of the questions. It has pictures 314 vs. 323 A8 rotors.

                            These are the pieces needed for upgrading a coupe from brake system to use Porsche 996 brakes. This model caliper comes on two different cars, the Porsche 996 or the Boxster S. The 996 brakes are black and the Boxster S brakes are red. It seems that you can get these calipers in silver...


                            Greg
                            Greg - I liked that write up - it is one of the better ones I've seen, and with your permission I would like to include it on S2 Central. Firstly as a link to the fourtitude site, and then as part of my site. OK ? You will be credited of course for services to the sanity of S2 owners around the world.

                            Two more Q's

                            Were any spacers and such required or did the 996 calipers mount straight onto the RS2 caliper carriers ?

                            Out of interest - What is the Porsche or Brembo part for the 996 calipers ?



                            Paul
                            Paul Nugent
                            Webmaster http://S2central.net
                            Administrator http://S2forum.com

                            1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                            2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                            2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                            Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                            There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

                            Comment

                            • S2central.net
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 16590
                              • Country: Northern Ireland

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Alistair C
                              As that man said!
                              if you bash it all together with the 314 disks, the pads overlap the edge by a millimetre or 2.
                              With 323 disks, the calipers stay in the same place but the disk sticks out beyond the pads by a mm or 2. (No problem unless you wear a big lip on the edge and can't get the calipers off!)

                              The question as to whether it fits without fouling? ..... on mine it was too close for comfort. Others seem happy. I have loads of pics of mine showing what looks like enough clearance - but also the effects after just 5 days driving.
                              Surely if you are wearing that much of a lip into the 323 disk then its gonna be well worn past its best anyway. I'm thinking that the 323 disc is best, and that perhaps shaving it down to 322 (three-two-two) mm diameter would clear any potential issues with lips caused by pads biting in at the edge. Just a thought...


                              Paul
                              Paul Nugent
                              Webmaster http://S2central.net
                              Administrator http://S2forum.com

                              1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                              Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                              There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

                              Comment

                              Working...