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  • _ShurikeN
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Mar 2010
    • 733
    • Country: Russian Federation

    #1

    CoupeQuattro rear brakes bolt-on upgrade version

    A version for Coupe Quattro typ89 bolt-on rear brakes upgrade with 5x112 lug pattern:

    Rear hubs from A4 B5 Quattro OE VAG p/n 8D0 501 653 B (+8mm track outwards each side)
    Cast iron calipers from UrQuattro/200(44)/V8(D11)/UrS4(4A)/UrS6(4A) for 269mm brakes VAG p/n 447 615 423(4)
    Rear caliper carriers from S8(D2) 280mm VAG p/n 4D0 615 425 C
    Brake discs A4(B5) front == S8(D2) rear 280mm VAG p/n 8E0 615 301 B(P)
    Brake pads, let's say, VAG p/n 1J0 698 451 L

    ~~2-mm-thick M10 washer is to be placed between hub carrier and caliper carrier.

    Caliper carrier bolts must be replaced to smth at last 4mm longer than native ones. The easiest and cheapest way is to use OEM VAG bolts N 101 815 02 (M10x1.25x40) and cut away redundant thread.
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    Last edited by _ShurikeN; 3 May 2017, 13:14.
  • Error404
    Super Moderator
    • Mar 2007
    • 19789
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Great
    B5q rear hubs open up a few possibilities actually.
    I have parts here for something similar to use 310x22 Phaeton rear disc
    Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
    Indigo ABY coupé
    Imola B6 S4 Avant

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    • _ShurikeN
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Mar 2010
      • 733
      • Country: Russian Federation

      #3
      Originally posted by Error404
      310x22 Phaeton rear disc
      310 can be installed with these calipers and custom brackets.

      They must be great with something about ~345 brembos on the front.

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      • BorisShakhov
        S2Forum Addict
        • Feb 2009
        • 224
        • Country: Russian Federation

        #4
        Originally posted by _ShurikeN
        They must be great with something about ~345 brembos on the front.
        For truck not for a street sporty coupe
        345 weighs a ton!

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        • varia
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Mar 2009
          • 821
          • Current: United States

          #5
          I have
          Audi B5 A4 rear hub (I had original s2 hubs, but for this setup i need that extra 8mm that the a4 hub has)
          Audi urS4/6 rear calipers
          Audi B5 S4 rear caliper brackets
          Audi B5 S4 rear vented brake disk
          sigpic

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          • _ShurikeN
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Mar 2010
            • 733
            • Country: Russian Federation

            #6
            Good version too.
            Inexpensive brake disk 8D0 615 601 D, but caliper carrier 8D0 615 425 was unaffordable under my circumstances.

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            • Wolfgang
              S2Forum Addict
              • Mar 2006
              • 250
              • Country: Germany

              #7
              or just like i did:

              a4 b5 quattro rear hubs
              rs4 b5 caliper-brackets (unmodified)
              girling 41/43 from urs4/urs6
              standard brake line
              standard hand brake cable
              rs4 b5 brake discs

              this is really pnp for 312mm on the S2 coupé and fits perfectly..
              S2 Coupe ABY
              S2 Sedan
              S6 20V Avant
              www.audis2.de

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              • Error404
                Super Moderator
                • Mar 2007
                • 19789
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Your solution is the best Wolfgang, just the cost of the RS4 rotors is pretty crazy!
                Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                Indigo ABY coupé
                Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                • caterpillar
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 2480

                  #9
                  to hav TOO big brakes on its too silly.. spec in the rear end.. i hav 330mm rotor on my s6 car... and this car are a heavy vagon... 18" rims are the smalles one.. and the tyres cost alot...
                  big brakes are a good idee, but not too big...!! its heavy also..

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                  • _ShurikeN
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 733
                    • Country: Russian Federation

                    #10
                    Slightly updated some tech info and uploaded better pictures of an assembly.

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                    • Oddi78
                      S2Forum Hobbyist
                      • Mar 2021
                      • 10
                      • Country: Norway

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Wolfgang
                      or just like i did:

                      a4 b5 quattro rear hubs
                      rs4 b5 caliper-brackets (unmodified)
                      girling 41/43 from urs4/urs6
                      standard brake line
                      standard hand brake cable
                      rs4 b5 brake discs

                      this is really pnp for 312mm on the S2 coupé and fits perfectly..
                      Must the hub be from RS4 og can I use a hub from a 1.8t a4 b5?

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                      • Jaswan
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 760
                        • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                        #12
                        I believe that all B5 quattro rear hubs are the same?

                        Jase.

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                        • Oddi78
                          S2Forum Hobbyist
                          • Mar 2021
                          • 10
                          • Country: Norway

                          #13
                          Originally posted by _ShurikeN
                          A version for Coupe Quattro typ89 bolt-on rear brakes upgrade with 5x112 lug pattern:

                          Rear hubs from A4 B5 Quattro OE VAG p/n 8D0 501 653 B (+8mm track outwards each side)
                          Cast iron calipers from UrQuattro/200(44)/V8(D11)/UrS4(4A)/UrS6(4A) for 269mm brakes VAG p/n 447 615 423(4)
                          Rear caliper carriers from S8(D2) 280mm VAG p/n 4D0 615 425 C
                          Brake discs A4(B5) front == S8(D2) rear 280mm VAG p/n 8E0 615 301 B(P)
                          Brake pads, let's say, VAG p/n 1J0 698 451 L

                          ~~2-mm-thick M10 washer is to be placed between hub carrier and caliper carrier.

                          Caliper carrier bolts must be replaced to smth at last 4mm longer than native ones. The easiest and cheapest way is to use OEM VAG bolts N 101 815 02 (M10x1.25x40) and cut away redundant thread.
                          Hallo!
                          What set up do you recoment in front with this 280mm brake kit in the rear?

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                          • _ShurikeN
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 733
                            • Country: Russian Federation

                            #14
                            Hello,
                            I have this setup: https://www.s2forum.com/forum/techni...e-on-the-front

                            I would recommend something similar. Calipers with 4 big pistons (40/44mm), 2 halves (non-monoblocks). Radial-mounted calipers would be smarter of course (Audi RS2, Porsche, Alfa-Romeo etc.) I'm planning to change my calipers to ones from RS2 just because I have found original ones with original brackets (for the sake of authenticity) though RS2 calipers have smaller pistons.

                            Would not recommend Cayenne 17Z/18Z: in my opinion they are too big and heavy for small chassis audis, leave them for big-chassis 44/4A etc.

                            Tandem vacuum booster with 25-27mm main cylinder (I have one from Allroad 4F).
                            Extra vacuum reservoir would be nice to have. Planning to install one from Volvo.

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                            • Oddi78
                              S2Forum Hobbyist
                              • Mar 2021
                              • 10
                              • Country: Norway

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Wolfgang
                              or just like i did:

                              a4 b5 quattro rear hubs
                              rs4 b5 caliper-brackets (unmodified)
                              girling 41/43 from urs4/urs6
                              standard brake line
                              standard hand brake cable
                              rs4 b5 brake discs

                              this is really pnp for 312mm on the S2 coupé and fits perfectly..
                              What do you use in front, and what master cylinder do you use?
                              Last edited by Oddi78; 31 March 2021, 21:13.

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