1996 RS2 No spark

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  • bazgreener
    S2Forum Buff
    • Jan 2025
    • 27
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16

    Hopefully this works?

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    • K Simmonds
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Dec 2007
      • 7627
      • Country: Wales

      #17
      Originally posted by bazgreener
      Thanks for the link, have now got the lot saved on my lap-top, much appreciated!
      1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
      1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
      1994 MTM RS2.
      1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
      2000 B5 TQS.

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      • John.
        S2Forum Fiend
        • May 2012
        • 2615
        • Country: Scotland

        #18
        Originally posted by bazgreener
        A lot of info there

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        • newsh
          S2Forum Obsessed
          • Aug 2003
          • 16226
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #19
          Originally posted by bazgreener

          I downloaded all the RS2 stuff i could find on Erwin last night, i'll try and share it.
          Hi Baz
          There's a lot of wiring diagrams on S2Central, I can't link direct to them as it's an old school website written in frames so you'll have to navigate to the appropriate pages.

          An on-line resource for information on the Audi S2 manufactured between 1990 and 1995.


          Choose Technical Data from the menu on the left then Electrical systems / Wiring and schematics / ADU or ABY
          Should look like this.


          S2 Coupe 3B Project


          Ur quattro restoration

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          Boost is the new rock and roll!
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          • bazgreener
            S2Forum Buff
            • Jan 2025
            • 27
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            Originally posted by newsh

            Hi Baz
            There's a lot of wiring diagrams on S2Central, I can't link direct to them as it's an old school website written in frames so you'll have to navigate to the appropriate pages.

            An on-line resource for information on the Audi S2 manufactured between 1990 and 1995.


            Choose Technical Data from the menu on the left then Electrical systems / Wiring and schematics / ADU or ABY
            Should look like this.

            Hi Newsh, i have seen some of the info there thanks. The info i downloaded from Audi was helpful but still not accurate, shows 2 x relays for the immo and the car i have here has a link in one position and fuel relay in the other!

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            • bazgreener
              S2Forum Buff
              • Jan 2025
              • 27
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #21
              Can anyone recommend where i can get the ECM tested? Tried a few places but no luck so far.
              thanks

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              • newsh
                S2Forum Obsessed
                • Aug 2003
                • 16226
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                Fuel relay and that link are usually up top under the bonnet.
                The immob stuff may be down below in the secondary relay carrier under the dash.

                S2 Coupe 3B Project


                Ur quattro restoration

                S2 Avant

                Boost is the new rock and roll!
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                • newsh
                  S2Forum Obsessed
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 16226
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  Actually, trying to remember when I completely deleted the immob system from an S2Avant, I have a feeling the relay was under the dash but not in the carrier. Might be wrong.

                  S2 Coupe 3B Project


                  Ur quattro restoration

                  S2 Avant

                  Boost is the new rock and roll!
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                  • newsh
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 16226
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    Originally posted by bazgreener
                    Can anyone recommend where i can get the ECM tested? Tried a few places but no luck so far.
                    thanks
                    Best bet would be to plug it into AndyG s car

                    S2 Coupe 3B Project


                    Ur quattro restoration

                    S2 Avant

                    Boost is the new rock and roll!
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                    • newsh
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 16226
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      Just a thought, if someone tried to start the car with a jump pack then there's a diode that can blow in the ECU. Easy fix and the details are on here somewhere.

                      Otherwise it's worth carefully checking the valve timing incase a keyway on the bottom (or top) pulley has broken. This is surprisingly common due to people using rattle claim on the cam and crank bolt when changing the belt. If the timing is even slightly out the car won't start.

                      RS2 cambelt setup is weird, the marks don't actually line up, they have to be 1/2 a tooth “off” in a certain direction. Others will chime in on this .

                      S2 Coupe 3B Project


                      Ur quattro restoration

                      S2 Avant

                      Boost is the new rock and roll!
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                      • Tractor Dave
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 5983
                        • Country: Wales

                        #26
                        Yes, RS2 timing is quite peculiar. I'm just doing an RS2 re build at the moment. Check my thread for timing pics. It also has a different timing belt, top pulley and water pump.

                        Post 177 below shows top timing mark when engine is tdc.
                        Last edited by Tractor Dave; 14 January 2025, 20:53.
                        Nothelle S2 Avant
                        Black Ur project
                        Silver Rs2 Project gone
                        Ocianic Ur project gone
                        S2 Coupe project gone
                        Urs6 plus project gone

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                        • sal_s2
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 1287
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          Does the key symbol on the dash light up? Also does the central locking work? If the pump is unplugged, the car wont start as its part of the immo circuit

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                          • bazgreener
                            S2Forum Buff
                            • Jan 2025
                            • 27
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            Originally posted by sal_s2
                            Does the key symbol on the dash light up? Also does the central locking work? If the pump is unplugged, the car wont start as its part of the immo circuit
                            One of the faults that vcds picks up from the immo module is that the warning light is open circuit, i've probably wasted a lot of time checking other stuff before realising it could be the immo.
                            I have no C/L or elec windows/sunroof so comfort module is probably under water! I think that's my next job. Is it in the front footwell like the later Audis?
                            thanks

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                            • Tractor Dave
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Dec 2017
                              • 5983
                              • Country: Wales

                              #29
                              No. Fortunately not. Windows sunroof etc ate controlled by a large rectangular relay under the dash on rhd car. Might be passengers side on your lhd car? Central locking pump is inside boot on right side under petrol filler hose. That might be wet as it sits quite low.
                              Nothelle S2 Avant
                              Black Ur project
                              Silver Rs2 Project gone
                              Ocianic Ur project gone
                              S2 Coupe project gone
                              Urs6 plus project gone

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                              • johne
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 1405
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #30
                                Are you sure the coil pack modification is wired correctly and working or could that be the source of your no spark?

                                Originally posted by newsh

                                Sounds like you have an immob fault, IIRC the immobiliser breaks (or grounds) the K line..
                                Yes, it toggles the K line.

                                The immobiliser circuit is in an off-white plastic housing adjacent to the steering column.

                                The immobiliser won't prevent the engine from starting but it will prevent the engine from running.

                                These cars are too early to have a comfort module.

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