RS2 vs S2 what is different in the engine?

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  • Jonas_R
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Jan 2004
    • 3781
    • Country: Denmark

    #1

    RS2 vs S2 what is different in the engine?

    Which engine is in the RS2? And is it just a stock S2 engine with another turbo, em, nozzles or are the pistons etc. changed?

    And which s2 engine is the strongest the 3B, ABY, ADU?

    /Jonas
    Sleeper S2 Avant +450

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  • Greg_S
    Administrator
    • Jul 2003
    • 12430
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    If you check www.s2central.net out most of the difference's are documented on there.

    the ABY and ADU and AAN engines share alot in common, the 3B less so because of its ignition system.

    Greg
    Greg

    S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

    '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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    • autounion
      S2Forum Hobbyist
      • Feb 2004
      • 11

      #3
      The name of the Rs2 engine is ADU, if that's what you're looking for.

      Besides what's allready been said the exhaust cam is different aswell, and the waterpump, (increased circulation I think). From stock I think the head gasket was different also, but they're all the same nowadays.

      And I've heard that the ADU have upper rod bearings, or crank bearings, (what are they called in english BTW, rod/crank bearings?) both up and down. But that might be crap. (The difference between upper and lower, in ABY/AAN is that only one of them has got that oil groove in the middle).
      Last edited by autounion; 24 February 2004, 17:06.
      autounion S4 2.2

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      • autounion
        S2Forum Hobbyist
        • Feb 2004
        • 11

        #4
        One more thing...

        ...Came to my mind. The ignition "trigger" on the camshaft sprocket is supposed to be different.
        autounion S4 2.2

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        • olsonjus
          S2Forum Addict
          • Dec 2003
          • 293
          • Country: United States

          #5
          Are the ADU rods 144mm with a 20mm pin like the s2 rods?

          Justin

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          • Pisobiker
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Jul 2003
            • 1175
            • Country: Finland

            #6
            AFAIK ADU engine is just the same as ABY apart for:

            - exhaust cam (different timing and duration, higher lift);
            - intake cam (different timing, same duration and lift);
            - higher flow injectors;
            - MAF with less restrictive screens;
            - Bigger diameter airbox intake;
            - Exhaust manifold (higher flow, with less restricitons);
            - K24 7200 turbocharger;
            - Silicone type "turbo-to-IC" hose;
            - Bigger IC (15% wider);
            - 3 Bar MAP sensor on ECU with different Eproms' maps (of course...);
            - "Powered by PORSCHE" written on top of IM....


            That should be all.

            Pistons and conrods are just the same (144mm center to center conrods, Ø 20mm pins)


            Ciao

            Marco

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            • olsonjus
              S2Forum Addict
              • Dec 2003
              • 293
              • Country: United States

              #7
              Thanks for the help

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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
                • 21750
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Originally posted by Pisobiker
                AFAIK ADU engine is just the same as ABY apart for:

                - exhaust cam (different timing and duration, higher lift);
                -
                - higher flow injectors;
                - MAF with less restrictive screens;
                - Bigger diameter airbox intake;
                - Exhaust manifold (higher flow, with less restricitons);
                - K24 7200 turbocharger;
                - Silicone type "turbo-to-IC" hose;
                - Bigger IC (15% wider);
                - 3 Bar MAP sensor on ECU with different Eproms' maps (of course...);
                - "Powered by PORSCHE" written on top of IM....


                That should be all.

                Pistons and conrods are just the same (144mm center to center conrods, Ø 20mm pins)


                Ciao

                Marco
                I've been searching for the definitive answer on this one:

                intake cam (different timing, same duration and lift);

                The ABY and ADU intake cam are the same, the 3B intake is a different part number so i'm assuming Audi made a change to the timing and this is where the difference lies

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                • 4WheelDrifter
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 5773
                  • Country: Devon

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jamo
                  I've been searching for the definitive answer on this one:

                  intake cam (different timing, same duration and lift);

                  The ABY and ADU intake cam are the same, the 3B intake is a different part number so i'm assuming Audi made a change to the timing and this is where the difference lies
                  3B intake cam is different because of the distributor drive.
                  SS

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                  • Jamo
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 21750
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 4WheelDrifter
                    3B intake cam is different because of the distributor drive.
                    aye aware of that but some people says the cam timing is different, i've given up finding the truth i feel like Mulder

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                    • oDD
                      S2Forum Hobbyist
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 22
                      • Country: Norway

                      #11
                      There are two different intake cams. But the duartion/timing and lift are equal on both.
                      The difference I think are the distributor drive.
                      Thats a bit strange because you also got to different distributor drive wheels. With different sized teeths.. But can't find that on the cam-partnumber
                      In the ADU the intake timing are moved 10deg. This I guess are done by the camweels posisions on the ex.cam. (that drives the intake cam). Because the ex.-cam ARE different. The intake cam used in the ADU are also used in ABY and some AAN (not all).
                      :suspect: Yepp! I'm Odd :na:
                      Audi RS2MTM 500hp/600nm :rock:

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                      • Jamo
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 21750
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by oDD
                        There are two different intake cams. But the duartion/timing and lift are equal on both.
                        The difference I think are the distributor drive.
                        Thats a bit strange because you also got to different distributor drive wheels. With different sized teeths.. But can't find that on the cam-partnumber
                        In the ADU the intake timing are moved 10deg. This I guess are done by the camweels posisions on the ex.cam. (that drives the intake cam). Because the ex.-cam ARE different. The intake cam used in the ADU are also used in ABY and some AAN (not all).

                        Thank you one RS2 cam wheel added to my list

                        I posted before why was there two different part numbers but somebody rather rudely said it was a mistake in the family album.

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                        • diesel des
                          S2Forum Possessed
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 3896

                          #13
                          Do you need to swap cam wheels if you are useing a 7a exhaust cam in a aby?

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                          • BRY
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                            • Nov 2004
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jamo
                            Thank you one RS2 cam wheel added to my list
                            Kingdoms are run by Kings, Dictatorships are run by Dictators.
                            England must be a Country. :mischeif:

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                            • oDD
                              S2Forum Hobbyist
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 22
                              • Country: Norway

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jamo
                              Thank you one RS2 cam wheel added to my list

                              I posted before why was there two different part numbers but somebody rather rudely said it was a mistake in the family album.
                              hmm... This is where I'm not so sure.
                              The timing can be changed by the ex cam itself. If the croove for the camwheel are moved on the cam this can cause the different timing.

                              I used a adj. cam wheel on an AAN in my prev. car. And ADU Cams.
                              Tried to adjust the timing, but there was verry little differens.
                              Only moved the power band up and down a little.
                              :suspect: Yepp! I'm Odd :na:
                              Audi RS2MTM 500hp/600nm :rock:

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