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  • andyg plym
    S2Forum Freak
    • Nov 2006
    • 4646
    • Country: England

    #61
    Originally posted by AUDIS2avant
    The new EM will NOT effect this, only more lag nothing else.
    So i would be looking for maybe stuck idle control, if constantly open more air will come in back the throttle lid and effect the idle AND normal driving, but not full throttle tho.
    And check wiring to tps lambda and MAF too as this is the sensors normaly that controls the idle and driving mixture.
    Have you checked the plugs?
    i did try another known working idle stabalisation valve and it made no difference. you can hear air being sucked in from somewhere just before the dv whooshes. i reckon its best to revert back to a standard setup.
    all wiring to maf and lambda fine.

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    • andyg plym
      S2Forum Freak
      • Nov 2006
      • 4646
      • Country: England

      #62
      1. bad sensor pickup from the VR. thats intermitent though if it does.
      2. seal around the plastic scuttle panel gone. this means water leaks into near the fusebox. water in ambda wires for same reason. wd the full area. not on probe or in any engine bits though WD kills probes.

      please explain in detail?

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      • Trist28
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Dec 2008
        • 725
        • Home: United Kingdom Current: Wales

        #63
        If you really think its a boost leak of some kind, I had a similar thing recently too. Lots of whooshing and no boost really, ever....... Quite loud in the car. Mine has after market boost hoses and the one which connects the metal intake pipe to the throttle body was the prob. Changed back to stock and all fine. All looked fine but as the hose wall is fatter when the clip is tightened it can squeeze the hose off slightly at the base. I only found out by pulling handbrake right up tight, bonnet up and a friend listening, then rev high and drop clutch to simulate boost was obvious where noise was coming from then... Worth a look

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        • andyg plym
          S2Forum Freak
          • Nov 2006
          • 4646
          • Country: England

          #64
          on a stock one at moment and is in mint condition:mischeif:

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          • GazzaG60
            S2Forum Freak
            • Mar 2007
            • 4133
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #65
            with the vems you have to change the polarity of the vr sensor . its one of the plugs on the bulkhead. i know you havn't had to do the change but check this. wd it. wd all the connectors there.

            do same to the o2 sensor plug a little further to the turret. check its got a good connection too. have you checked the feedback is good with a meter. it may be a good probe but is the earth good? probes are pretty tough.

            look above the fuses at the plastic between the window and the void below. i have a crack in mine that lets water run in a little. maybe not that but check around there anyway.

            i had my manifold welded and we just did it and refitted and i had this for around 2 days where it would nt run right. cleaned the bulkhead ones and the wideband ones in my case and put them back engine side where they were originally and its been fine since.

            worth a try if you have done all else. does sound lambda ish or though. is it smooth at any point? are all the plug wires and injector wires on the right places?

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            • AUDIS2avant
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Jan 2009
              • 670
              • Country: Denmark

              #66
              Did you run an dv?
              Many hoses work fine vhen on vacum but on boost they leak, try to disconnect all hoses and connect them again, sometimes you find cracks under the clips.
              But sounds like a boost hose realated problem to me, checked th i/c for leaks?

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              • andyg plym
                S2Forum Freak
                • Nov 2006
                • 4646
                • Country: England

                #67
                yes all basic stuff fine,leads,sparks etc put new boots on em too.

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                • GazzaG60
                  S2Forum Freak
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 4133
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #68
                  i thought it sounded like a boost issue but if the car struggles to idle i can see it being an issue that stops it getting on boost properly

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                  • bigdan
                    S2Forum Enthusiast
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 105
                    • Country: Wales

                    #69
                    Originally posted by GazzaG60
                    i thought it sounded like a boost issue but if the car struggles to idle i can see it being an issue that stops it getting on boost properly
                    Thats right, perhaps its a case of poor running affecting boost, rather than lack of boost causing poor running?

                    When did these problems first arise? after mods? all of a sudden? or has it been this way since you've had the car?

                    just to try and get a bit more of an understanding thats all.

                    Dan
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                    • GazzaG60
                      S2Forum Freak
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 4133
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #70
                      on the corrado unplugging things often was a good way to see if there was an issue. i run with no o2 probe for 12 months on that. in the end it was an earth issue. i run 1 to the mount, 1 to the battery and 1 to the earthing rings under the dash. never a problem after that.

                      do you have an AF gauge? if not get one as its ahrd to diagnose lambda issues without one.

                      try unlplugging the 02 sensor and starting her up. see what happens.

                      check the ISV. on VW that circuit is not fused and an issue can cause a problem in the ECU. check the main relay. what the symptoms are is a rebooting ECU that causes bad running. the telltale is the clicking from the main relay.

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                      • andyg plym
                        S2Forum Freak
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 4646
                        • Country: England

                        #71
                        Originally posted by bigdan
                        Thats right, perhaps its a case of poor running affecting boost, rather than lack of boost causing poor running?

                        When did these problems first arise? after mods? all of a sudden? or has it been this way since you've had the car?

                        just to try and get a bit more of an understanding thats all.

                        Dan
                        had problems since i got it back after swapping to an avant for a year, the car was apparantly running fine on an rs2 turbo on the tubular manifold. when it came to me i had to put my turbo on (stock).
                        Its never run right with a k24 on it.I never saw it running in the rs2 turbo and have just been "told" it was running right.

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                        • Acidburn
                          S2Forum Obsessed
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 13459
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #72
                          andy - what chip is it running? could it be still on the chip ready for the rs2 turbo so overfuelling or something?

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                          • andyg plym
                            S2Forum Freak
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 4646
                            • Country: England

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Acidburn
                            andy - what chip is it running? could it be still on the chip ready for the rs2 turbo so overfuelling or something?
                            no on my ecu with homefry which workes fine!

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                            • newsh
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                              • Aug 2003
                              • 16226
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #74
                              Originally posted by andyg plym
                              no on my ecu with homefry which workes fine!
                              Stock injectors?

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                              • andyg plym
                                S2Forum Freak
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 4646
                                • Country: England

                                #75
                                yes all stock

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