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  • audinut
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jul 2009
    • 2195
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    cylinder heads

    Are all these ,AAN,3B,ABY,ADU - running the same cylinder head?
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  • driftin jo
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Sep 2007
    • 2222
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Yes

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    • porkkis
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Aug 2003
      • 1994
      • Country: Finland

      #3
      No. Early AAN and all 3B heads lack the hall sender holder.
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      • driftin jo
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        • Sep 2007
        • 2222
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Originally posted by porkkis
        No. Early AAN and all 3B heads lack the hall sender holder.
        Yes, but you can use the tuna can hall sender or just weld / drill, tap and bolt a bracket on for the front pulley type hall sender, so essentially they are the same.

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        • porkkis
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Aug 2003
          • 1994
          • Country: Finland

          #5
          Essentially the naturally aspirated heads are the same too. But they're not if asked are they te same or not.
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          • driftin jo
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Sep 2007
            • 2222
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Yes, Apart from the water manifold holes that you have to machine, they are a bit less the same with that taken into account but have had an easy stress free life and not cracked like all the turbo heads.

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            • newsh
              S2Forum Obsessed
              • Aug 2003
              • 16226
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              And NA heads have same size but different valves? Are the turbo valves sodium filled?

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              • JP
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Mar 2007
                • 1858
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Turbo valves are sodium filled and with regards to cracking its hit and miss. I've had all casting numbers where I've had to Weld the chambers and replace the seats because were so bad the seats could drop out. And I've had all of the casting numbers were a small 30 degree cut gets rid of any cracking or there were none at all. All comes down to casting flaws and whether there was any air leaks on the car during its lifetime.
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                • QuattroFever
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • May 2006
                  • 1360
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Id expect 7a will be sodium filled the same as 16v KR engined golf valves. Unless they scrimped on the budget for the 7a
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                  • tscheel
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                    • May 2009
                    • 222
                    • Country: Denmark

                    #10
                    Originally posted by QuattroFever
                    Id expect 7a will be sodium filled the same as 16v KR engined golf valves. Unless they scrimped on the budget for the 7a
                    7A have sodium filled exhaust valves. Dunno if its the same valve size as ABY.
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                    • JP
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                      • Mar 2007
                      • 1858
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      To date I have never personally come across a post 1990 16v KR or an I5 7A head that have sodium filled valves the part no. on those heads are 027 109 611D where as the sodium filled ones are the same part number but a B on the end for the 3B, ABY, ADU and AAN or the earlier Pre 1990 16V KR heads.
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                      • UrS4boy
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 11859
                        • Country: Canada

                        #12
                        Originally posted by driftin jo
                        Yes, but you can use the tuna can hall sender or just weld / drill, tap and bolt a bracket on for the front pulley type hall sender, so essentially they are the same.
                        But to drive the tuna can hall sender, you need to have the intake cam with the drive gear as well.

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                        • mcandmar
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                          • Apr 2004
                          • 5118
                          • Country: Ireland

                          #13
                          I have an original Audi booklet on the 7A engine and it claimed they had sodium filled valves, but i wouldn't be surprised if only the early cars with the tubular manifold got them.
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                          • DJones
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                            • Jun 2005
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by UrS4boy
                            But to drive the tuna can hall sender, you need to have the intake cam with the drive gear as well.

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                            Photo courtesy of Jari Aalto (3B on the left, early AAN on the right)
                            The cam gear on the right is interesting, I didn't realise they used different size gears let alone split gears?

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                            • audinut
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                              • Jul 2009
                              • 2195
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              basically wanted to know if a 96 AAN head is the same as a ABY
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