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  • Carfreak
    S2Forum Addict
    • Apr 2012
    • 225
    • Country: Sweden

    #1

    Turbo replacement!!

    Hi!

    I´m running a Garret Gt35R bb turbo with ar.73 intake and a v-band 3" exhaust but I want better spool so just wounder what turbo u recommend!

    My goal is max 600hp, fast spool, t3 flange and 3" v-band out - any sugestions ?
  • Thuppu
    S2Forum Freak
    • Sep 2010
    • 4115
    • Country: Finland

    #2
    So, how is your spool now?

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    • Carfreak
      S2Forum Addict
      • Apr 2012
      • 225
      • Country: Sweden

      #3
      Originally posted by Thuppu
      So, how is your spool now?
      I have full boost at 4-4500rpm.. Could be my homemade ic piping that´s restricting the flow to.

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      • Jamo
        Retired OG Mod
        • Mar 2004
        • 21750
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Problem is you've broken the spool ceiling on the 2.2 to get 600 bhp you're in 4-5k spool area, below it you can run to 550 with a 3-4k spool 2.2 engine

        I'd more look at your cam setup rather than a new turbo to see if you can get a better spool
        Last edited by Jamo; 5 July 2012, 08:44.

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        • Carfreak
          S2Forum Addict
          • Apr 2012
          • 225
          • Country: Sweden

          #5
          Originally posted by Jamo
          Problem is you've broken the spool ceiling on the 2.2 to get 600 bhp you're in 4-5k spool area, below it you can run to 550 with a 3-4k spool 2.2 engine

          I'd more look at your cam setup rather than a new turbo to see if you can get a better spool
          Okey, that´s what I thought.. I´m running 7a cams but will go over to cat cams instead!

          My goal is 500bhp after tuning it..
          Last edited by Jamo; 5 July 2012, 08:44.

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          • cooperquattro
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Jan 2011
            • 815
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            What size exhaust housing????
            What rpm 's full boost achieved at??
            What boost pressure do you run??

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            • Jamo
              Retired OG Mod
              • Mar 2004
              • 21750
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              Originally posted by Carfreak
              Okey, that´s what I thought.. I´m running 7a cams but will go over to cat cams instead!

              My goal is 500bhp after tuning it..
              Running a pair of 7A cams increase lag in stock timing, the alternative is reclock them per Audi_CQ suggestions ( need adjust cams sprockets and wheels ) .

              Yeah cat cams would be a good shout or Schrick

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              • Thuppu
                S2Forum Freak
                • Sep 2010
                • 4115
                • Country: Finland

                #8
                Holset HX35 Super is a 500hp turbo and the spool is somwhere like 3500rpm's...



                I'm running the HX40 Super and 1bar seems to be at ~4250rpm, not yet mapped. This is a 600+hp turbo.

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                • Jamo
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 21750
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                  #9
                  There's a lot to do before changing turbos, like he could send it away for the HTA billet wheel upgrade which will improve spool

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                  • prosty
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 1114
                    • Country: Sweden

                    #10
                    Think of it as foreplay with a good release, just like Jamo sais. "En som väntar på något gott" (one who waits for something good) :-)
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                    • Nik0las
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 1345
                      • Country: Bulgaria

                      #11
                      what about GTX3076R recording to the charts this is 600hp turbo and full boost is achived earlier?

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                      • Jamo
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 21750
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        GTX3076r is a pile of poo, turbine wheel is too small

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                        • Billman
                          S2Forum Freak
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 4129

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Thuppu
                          Holset HX35 Super is a 500hp turbo and the spool is somwhere like 3500rpm's...



                          I'm running the HX40 Super and 1bar seems to be at ~4250rpm, not yet mapped. This is a 600+hp turbo.
                          These spool times depend mainly on the turbine housing. Your's a very big one on the Super40 but needed for max HP.
                          Last edited by Billman; 5 July 2012, 10:46.
                          Go Holset or Go RS4

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                          • Thuppu
                            S2Forum Freak
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 4115
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                            #14
                            Billman, you'r right. I have a size #16 housing, in A/R sizing it should be something between .80 - 1.00.

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                            • Billman
                              S2Forum Freak
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 4129

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Thuppu
                              Billman, you'r right. I have a size #16 housing, in A/R sizing it should be something between .80 - 1.00.
                              more like 1.1 AR
                              Go Holset or Go RS4

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