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  • rxl
    S2Forum Extremist
    • May 2012
    • 1913
    • Country: Germany

    #1

    rs2 timing belt

    hello,

    i just wonder if the aby adu blocks are the same and moast people run rs2 setup on aby..
    can i put the timing belt and waterpump of the aby on adu block?
    waterpump at audi tradition for the rs2 cost 303,30euros...
  • Jamo
    Retired OG Mod
    • Mar 2004
    • 21750
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Neither, what you do is buy the ABY pump, pull the front wheel from the RS2 pump and press it onto the new ABY pump

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    • rxl
      S2Forum Extremist
      • May 2012
      • 1913
      • Country: Germany

      #3
      And why the pump is so expensive? Ok and that will work? Dont want to scrap the block.. so i will buy only the timing belt from tradition for the rs2 and the rest of aby?

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      • Rikki Kitto
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Feb 2010
        • 6276
        • Country: England

        #4
        Like a lot of the parts for our cars now, they are so expensive because companies feel they deserve to make extortionate amounts of profit from the fact we are willing to pay to keep our pride and joys on the road

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        • rxl
          S2Forum Extremist
          • May 2012
          • 1913
          • Country: Germany

          #5
          Originally posted by Rikki Kitto
          Like a lot of the parts for our cars now, they are so expensive because companies feel they deserve to make extortionate amounts of profit from the fact we are willing to pay to keep our pride and joys on the road
          for a water pump its crazy price...

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          • Vorsprung durch Technik
            S2Forum Freak
            • Jun 2007
            • 4754
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Originally posted by Rikki Kitto
            Like a lot of the parts for our cars now, they are so expensive because companies feel they deserve to make extortionate amounts of profit from the fact we are willing to pay to keep our pride and joys on the road
            We need to shame Audi by either telling it to their faces which i will do at this years Audi Driver International on their corporate truck and or turn our backs on them.There are far more exclusive english cars with a far far better pedigree in which the prices are way less than half and even 1/8 equivalent audi prices reference bushes and suspension parts.I mean hello..... just who do they think they are? Audi,s never make big money just the UR quattro and even then only a snippet on some of my favorite Jaguars/Daimlers.And yet the £100,000.00 E type suspension parts nice and cheap.My plans have changed for sure now because of their ridiculous prices.

            Why doesn't one of the more tech savvy forum members start a petition to hand to them?
            Last edited by Vorsprung durch Technik; 29 June 2014, 18:50.
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            • jade
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Jan 2005
              • 1811
              • Home: New Zealand Current: Spain

              #7
              Originally posted by rxl
              And why the pump is so expensive? Ok and that will work? Dont want to scrap the block.. so i will buy only the timing belt from tradition for the rs2 and the rest of aby?
              Because they are for a rs2

              They spin a bit quicker and alter the timing a little

              As Jamo Said or if your car is not a RS2 just go the ABY/ ANN way
              RS 2 580HP

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              • veneto rs2
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Jun 2006
                • 1022
                • Country: Veneto

                #8
                Originally posted by Jamo
                Neither, what you do is buy the ABY pump, pull the front wheel from the RS2 pump and press it onto the new ABY pump
                Originally posted by rxl
                And why the pump is so expensive? Ok and that will work? Dont want to scrap the block.. so i will buy only the timing belt from tradition for the rs2 and the rest of aby?
                Only If the car we're talking its an RS2 with ADU otherwise this is useless.

                You can buy an ABY pump even better if you go for an OEM with a metal impeller i.e. GRAF.
                Then take off the pulley from the original ADU pump with the proper tool take off the pulley from the new ABY pump.
                Then press the ADU pulley on the new ABY pump and you'll end up with a new pump with better quality and reliability due to the metal impeller.
                I've done this three times so far saving big money (GRAF ABY pump 45€)
                http://www.audisportclub.com/

                http://www.s2forum.com/forum/vbgoogl...227295&zoom=16

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                • rxl
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • May 2012
                  • 1913
                  • Country: Germany

                  #9
                  thats great.!!!thanks for the help.. yes its an ADU engine...

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                  • veneto rs2
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 1022
                    • Country: Veneto

                    #10
                    Had a bit of discussion with someone on the "secret group of RS2 owners" on Facebook few days ago regarding this...
                    Ending on someone laughing on me and stating that the expensive RS2 water pump was developed by Audi and Porsche engineers and who I was to think I could do something like that....
                    Yes Audi and Porsche engineers the same guys that left the timing marks unchanged making hundreds of owners wandering with their timing setting..... Not very German is'nt it?

                    Well I believe that in few years time people that are not curious to find (working) alternative solutions will encounter many problems to keep their RS2 on the road....
                    People ready to spend ludicrous money for an RS2 MAF instead of swapping case with an ABY one or (seems but not yet confirmed?) Volvo one.

                    About the pulleys swap bear in mind that it's better to have it done by a skilled mechanic if you are not sure how to do it, once seen it the first time it was easy for me.
                    http://www.audisportclub.com/

                    http://www.s2forum.com/forum/vbgoogl...227295&zoom=16

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                    • pasbogdan
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 1160
                      • Country: Romania

                      #11
                      What is wrong with aftermarket water pump, like SKF for 50 euro?

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                      • veneto rs2
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 1022
                        • Country: Veneto

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pasbogdan
                        What is wrong with aftermarket water pump, like SKF for 50 euro?
                        For some people seems like that it's not good if it does'nt come from the Audi shelf...
                        http://www.audisportclub.com/

                        http://www.s2forum.com/forum/vbgoogl...227295&zoom=16

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                        • pasbogdan
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1160
                          • Country: Romania

                          #13
                          Need more info about adu water pump.I remember something is different compared to aan/aby.Give me more details and i will buy skf aftermarket one and compare with your data and the aan pumps i have in my garrage.

                          Regards,

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                          • rxl
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • May 2012
                            • 1913
                            • Country: Germany

                            #14
                            It has 26 and not 29 teeth

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                            • pasbogdan
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 1160
                              • Country: Romania

                              #15
                              Ok.The rear of the pump is the same?I imagine less teeth more speed it gets=more flow.I will order skf and check.
                              I am curious if they had a real problem with cooling or it is just a safe measure taken to prevent heating.Will also check FIA homologation papers for group b rally cars to see what were they using.Maybe i can spot in a photo the number of teeth of the pump.
                              Turbo I5 engines have a real problem with tdc bore wear.Never managed to put all data together to find out the problem.I have some thoughts:
                              -weak casting in the bore/block
                              -bad oilchanges/oil quality
                              -car was running with ignition problems/fueling problems
                              OR
                              Bad coolant flow or thermal transfer problems at tdc between block and coolant.
                              Can anyone confirm that adu bores measured at tdc at let's say 200+k km has less than 0.1 mm of wear?

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