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  • andy10v
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2009
    • 5996
    • Country: Scotland

    #61
    Hi Nick

    They are high impedance, so ok for motronic. I am sure the injectors are ok, just not the muppet who owns the car
    Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

    Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
    Sold ABY-stock

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    • sjw185
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Jun 2007
      • 1175
      • Country: Scotland

      #62
      Originally posted by andy10v
      So current plan is

      tidy up

      Swap chipset from ecu that is now blowing the fuse (now bust?) into the other ecu

      check timing is 100% (front end off to turn engine over) (or any other suggestions for turning the engine?)
      Check crank mark
      check cam pulley
      check cam marks
      check dizzy alignment.
      Andy,

      Dont think eproms would take out S27 20a fuse.
      As twoqu suggested have you tried unplugging all injectors and turning on Ignition?
      To check the ECU I would remove as many sensors as possible fairly easy job with plugs
      Injectors, Ignition coil, maf etc
      Then see if you can connect vagcom to ECU without fuse S27 fail.
      If so start to reconnect sensors one at a time and maybe find what is killing fuse S27
      Timing would prevent engine start but it does not blow fuses.

      Cheers

      Steve

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      • twoqu
        S2Forum Possessed
        • Sep 2003
        • 3103

        #63
        Here's some info from Dave:
        The Audi Enthusiast website. Forums for all Audis including A4, S4, A5, S5, A6, S6, allroad, A8, S8, TT, R8, Q5, Q7, 4000, 100, 200, v6, v8, vintage, local forums


        Without doubt the car will not start without 12V to the injectors via the fuel pump relay and ecu with ign on.

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        • andy10v
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2009
          • 5996
          • Country: Scotland

          #64
          Originally posted by sjw185
          Andy,

          Dont think eproms would take out S27 20a fuse.
          As twoqu suggested have you tried unplugging all injectors and turning on Ignition?
          To check the ECU I would remove as many sensors as possible fairly easy job with plugs
          Injectors, Ignition coil, maf etc
          Then see if you can connect vagcom to ECU without fuse S27 fail.
          If so start to reconnect sensors one at a time and maybe find what is killing fuse S27
          Timing would prevent engine start but it does not blow fuses.

          Cheers

          Steve
          Tried unplugging

          injectors
          maf
          tps
          coil
          4 plugs on firewall (crank sensor etc)
          2 aux looms

          fuse pops when ignition turned on

          unplug ecu , fuse ok.
          Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

          Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
          Sold ABY-stock

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          • sjw185
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Jun 2007
            • 1175
            • Country: Scotland

            #65
            Andy,

            Did you swap back or try removing fuel pump relay as this could blow fuse S27 if your "new" relay coil was faulty?
            I ask as prior to changing the relay you only had a problem with S28?

            cheers


            Steve

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            • UrS4boy
              S2Forum Obsessed
              • Feb 2006
              • 11859
              • Country: Canada

              #66
              Originally posted by andy10v
              Its in the air in the garage, if I push it out, I cant push it back in without winching due to the slope)
              Umm...if it is in the air and all four wheels are off the ground, all the easier. Put it in gear and turn front wheel (forward) to turn the engine.
              RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
              94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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              • andy10v
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Mar 2009
                • 5996
                • Country: Scotland

                #67
                IT LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                Swapped the eproms into an ECU Newsh lent me, ran output test, injectors all clicked.

                Turned the key and she fired right up!

                Thank you (everybody) very much for your help, and patience.
                Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                Sold ABY-stock

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                • quattro-nick
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 1746
                  • Country: Belgium

                  #68
                  I'm happy for you
                  audi coupe quattro b2 2.2 20vt project (573hp-626nm)
                  TWINCHARGED power,zero lag
                  AEM W/M injection

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