Paint Advice

[willg54]

You could save some money by getting the car stripped.Ex:door handles,all trim/lining,lights,mirrors etc etc.

Do you mean basically strip the panels off the car to save on masking etc? Nice idea

[pasbogdan]

Not getting panels off the car.That should be avoided if all of them are perfect aligned.
Getting trims,lamps,mirrors etc
Door handles should be painted off the doors.That involves removing interior door cover etc.
And that will save you money.Paint shop will only prep/mask/paint and will not charge you for getting off front bumper,fog lights etc.

[GT500]

What is the difference between the two hardeners for that D800 Rob?
PPG lists a D802 Standard Hardener, or a D803 MS Hardener with different mixing ratios?

I tried both about 20 years ago. Couldn't see any difference. I use the 802. It's amazing gear. Applied with my devilbis gti pro clear gun most customers think it's already been flatted and polished when it's just the gun finish.

[pasbogdan]

What air cap do you use on your gti?What regulated pressure do you use?

[GT500]

What air cap do you use on your gti?What regulated pressure do you use?

I'll have to look. Back at work on Saturday. Pressure is 65 psi on the line then I adjust it at the gun for small pressure changes for large areas or intricate work.

[newsh]

Getting lots of sun in Lagos Portugal.

Rob, have you been over to the west coast for a surf or boogie board session? We were down there a couple of weeks back, it's awesome.

[GT500]

What air cap do you use on your gti?What regulated pressure do you use?

Its a T1 cap.

Newsh,
Yes we shot out that way in the awesome corsa hire car. I'm not a fan of the sea. I like pulling fish out on a line and having a snorkle about but thats about it. NOt a surf dude!

[SteveH]

I used PPG 2K flat gloss on my motor as it's the OE spec for Lazer red. Base and clear is far better for a resilient deep shine and will stop the paint oxidising over time. Never tried water-based, but 2K is OK if you use a mask and work in a booth with air extraction.

[Jamin]

Never tried water-based, but 2K is OK if you use a mask and work in a booth with air extraction.

What if like most on here, you don't happen to have a spray booth with air extraction or an air fed mask?

[willg54]

What if like most on here, you don't happen to have a spray booth with air extraction or an air fed mask?

Don't think it's worth the risk with 2k - side effects are nasty. Get an air fed mask and knock up some ventilation or use other paints maybe with good ventilation and a 3m style particulate mask to help out

[Error404]

Air fed masks are not expensive TBH. Look at Darren's DIY booth and the finish he achieved on his UR in his garage

http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32731

[pasbogdan]

What if like most on here, you don't happen to have a spray booth with air extraction or an air fed mask?

Loan a booth.Here is something like 50 eur to 150 eur/paint.The mask from 3m is 20 usd
Am i missing something here?Or it is not clear that a paint can not be done without right tools and money?It can be done by yourself if you have some of the tools.The painting boot will have the airline and filters for airline.But the guns i am not sure they will loan.
The things needed will be aprox the following:
Gun for paint
Gun for laquer
Gun for primer
Air compresssor with lines and water separator
Sanding blocks(long,short,curved),airpower and/or electric tools
Bondo
2k primer
Paint
Laquer
Sandpaper,water resistant masking tape,masking paper etc
High/low spots finder material
Polishing tool/pads/material(medium and fine)
Painting clothes
Degreaser

And more

The car needs to be 100% stripped to get a perfect finish(door handles,mirror caps,bumpers,etc etc)Even windshield is a good idea to remove to get the paint under the windshield seal.There is a mashing tape with a plastic film that can be inserted between the seal and the body and keep the seal away from the car to let the paint/laquer get under.But usually seals are hardened from age and this can not be done.

It is not a simple job.And it is expensive.It can be done even in your garage if you have the tools.Wash all with water to avoid part of the dust,cover all the space in plastic foil(to avoid dust coming in your paint).Get good lightning sources and start painting.But it is not expensive to loan a booth so garage is not an option.

The finish of the car is made of:
1.stripping and prepp. the body
2.painting
3.quality of the materials/equipment used

[SteveH]

What if like most on here, you don't happen to have a spray booth with air extraction or an air fed mask?

I have a local paintshop who rent their booth and guns at the weekend. There's probably somebody near to you if you make local inquiries.

[PaulJ]

Hi folks, bit of advice needed, I'm prepping car at the moment and wondering how to split the painted metal part from the plastic handle, there appears to be a slim plastic clip but really not sure how to split and don't want to break either part
Paul