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  • #16
    Joss,

    Reading of your UrQ project, you're likely well qualified to judge for yourself what you'd prefer, so why not leave the decision of any possible next damper if in fact required, till you've least ridden in a few forum member's different wagon examples; and also proven that you do need new ones. Like Dave says above, your's may still be "working fine...test...paint (the struts perhaps)...", but would add inspect and, is there a particular symptom you are seeking to correct? Is your entire suspension OEM and do you have its' service history?

    Meanwhile, staying with your restoration and originality theme, if you haven"t already, may I humbly suggest as a most cost-effective first go-round and suspension starting point that you consider:

    Two items on the front end:
    - Front OEM A-arm bushes and strut top-mounts alone (i.e. un-aided) have a much shorter service life than dampers;
    - If not having been just replaced very recently, these bushes and mounts will already be well enroute to early internal failure;
    - In the case of these particular metalastic parts, the above will be even more true of non-dealer sourced items;
    - As the above soft hinges are in a sense, both the knee and hip joints of the car, and the connective tissue for those same joints, any deficiency here will subtract markedly from your driving enjoyment, no matter what brand of suspension is mounted between them.

    This therefore suggests you carry out the replacement of the six front main suspension attachment points bearing in mind the following:
    a) Replace both the strut top-mounts and A-arm bushes with strictly dealer sourced Boges; and
    b) Because the above is a fair bit of work and you may be interested in doing it less often, consider also:
    c) Equipping these when new with nigh on invisible and easily removable "Stops" widgets I make (links below), which economically serve to preserve these joints near to new for quite some time.

    Arm-Stops

    Strut-Stops

    This will ensure to provide the most suitable and durable stock strut retention for your current or any future dampers, and restore the responsive connectivity that the old soft attachment points will have lost.

    Two items on the rear end:
    - remove the short upper suspension arm and the associated hinge plate, that is bolted to the inner fender wall, and which also secures the top of the coil-over. Inspect for rust and do painting and rust-proofing here;
    - inspect and likely replace at least the two inner pivot bushes on this upper arm as these are always the first to go off;

    These two whole but limited procedures will also afford you the opportunity to more carefully have a good look around and clean and inspect all the rest of your current kit.

    Cheers.

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    • #17
      hey thank you for a detailed account of what i should do I was intending to carry out a full bush replacement but this information gives me confidence to go ahead with the work. My only issue is the shocks I have been in contact with Boge and I cannot find replacement dampers what alternatives do I have.

      Regards

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      • #18
        Originally posted by joss01
        hey thank you for a detailed account of what i should do I was intending to carry out a full bush replacement but this information gives me confidence to go ahead with the work. My only issue is the shocks I have been in contact with Boge and I cannot find replacement dampers what alternatives do I have.

        Regards
        Did you try Autewo as above?
        They specialise in parts for these cars.

        I fitted Bilstein B6 to my Nothelle Avant. They’re very good, controlled but comfortable.
        Got them from Larkspeed

        S2 Coupe 3B Project


        Ur quattro restoration

        S2 Avant

        Boost is the new rock and roll!
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        • #19
          Yes I will contact Autewo next week and see what they have on offer

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          • #20
            Another consideration, perhaps more strategic, which may help to justify the extra cost, is that once having obtained Konis, Bilstiens, or whatever that are rebuild-able / adjustable / modifiable, you then hold that rebuild option going forward. By buying a more green option now, you get to future-proof the vehicles serviceability; down the road.

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            • #21
              Interesting option I am going for the Blistein B6 are you saying these particular shocks are a green option for future as they can be modified?

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              • #22
                I'm fitting B6 to my coupe at the moment. The 'green' credentials come from the fact that bilstein can rebuild them rather than they can be modified. There is no adjustability on the B6 but why would you want that when they are correct out of the box

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                • #23
                  Your correct I have no intention of modifying a car that is already modified

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                  • #24
                    A greener option in that:

                    a) although it still requires a good deal of time, effort and cash to rebuild or modify an existing component (Bilstein can and does do both), this does save the embedded energy then not required to re-create the item from scratch;
                    b) non- rebuildables can be recycled but perhaps only as raw materials, and hence losing much of their embedded energy;
                    c) at some point perhaps even new B6s from Bilstein (or the like from other makers) will also be permanently unavailable, so one wants to have the rebuild-ables you'd prefer; in hand prior (preventing pretty Porsche-powered petunia planter-itis);
                    d) theoretically with careful use, enough regular inspection and proper maintenance, rebuild-ables once had; can be made to last indefinitely; and
                    e) with increasing infrastructure decay more frequent repairs are all the more likely, and with the necessary cost of penalties for burning hydro-carbons (or anything else) to come, we might learn to better value repair-ability over simple toss and replace-ability. The thing about throwing something away is that there is no "away".

                    I would welcome the return of the guilds, brotherhoods and craftsmen. The money would stay more local, and that would be a greener future we could all live with.

                    Even the B6s may already be hard to find. What do you have now and why do you think they are either done or perhaps unsuitable?
                    Last edited by Lago Blue; 5 May 2019, 19:12.

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                    • #25
                      I have Boge at the moment but I have already purchase the Bilsteins B6 in preparation for a full suspension rebuild

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                      • #26
                        Have you got the tool to torque up the gland nuts?
                        Bilstein shocks have their own cap to hold them into the strut body, the nut has an oil seal built into it. It is not possible to do it up with a normal spanner.

                        I made a tool but there is an official tool you could buy. Oh old ring spanner and an awful lot of filing. If I was going to do it again, I would not use a Swan neck spanner as the offset made it difficult to keep in line with the nut and apply big torque.
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                        Last edited by steve briance; 5 May 2019, 20:18.

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                        • #27
                          A full bush replacement is quite a long list, several of them may still be fine, and some of those on the rear-end are also pretty stubborn to change. I wouldn't want to have to get them all done at once. Here's a guide which may be helpful for the front struts:

                          Bilstein into MacPherson

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