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  • sergio
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Jun 2013
    • 113
    • Country: Portugal

    #1

    Quattro help

    Hi.
    I have a b4 tdi 80 avant and would like to convert to awd. Witch is the easiest way to do it?
    a) using the quattro system from a b4 sedan or coupé?

    b) using the quattro system from a b5 sedan?

    A friend is selling his b5 quattro v6 2.5 tdi and would like to know if it can be done
    Thanks!
  • K Simmonds
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Dec 2007
    • 7632
    • Country: Wales

    #2
    You'll need to use B4 Saloon or Avant rear running gear and prop, the B4 Avants have the subframe mounting bolt hole's hidden under the under-seal complete with threads the latter cars just have the holes without threads.

    I think it may well be possible to use B5 quattro stuff at the back as well.

    Coupe/B3 Saloon is no use to you.
    1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
    1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
    1994 MTM RS2.
    1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
    2000 B5 TQS.

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    • sergio
      S2Forum Enthusiast
      • Jun 2013
      • 113
      • Country: Portugal

      #3
      I still haven t found a build thread that showed how it can be done.
      And i have a great deal on hold.....that i need to decide.

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      • irishs2
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Apr 2009
        • 2455
        • Country: Ireland

        #4
        Acidburn converted a FWD 80 to quattro but broke it down before finishing.
        mdz is thinking about doing it


        The fuel tank is also different in quattro . So basically, you will need a B4 quattro sedan/avant as a doner.
        Eric

        95 S2 Avant under rebuild.

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        • andy10v
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2009
          • 5996
          • Country: Scotland

          #5
          Nitec did a fwd to quattro b4, you will need to read through the thread to find where the quattro swap starts



          Hey guys...long time reader and I figured it's about time I said hi and introduced my project...I'm also at a point where I'll need a lot of this forum's wisdom with my project... I've kept update threads on other forums but I'll try to sum it all up here... 'Gianna' is an import from Italy...


          Acidburns fwd to quattro b4 swap



          If you get a B4 donor then AFAIK everything should swap across, need to weld in a captive nut for the rear subframe and weld in the prop support bracket.

          You can use parts from a b5, but would still need a b4 fuel tank.

          You will need to do something with the brake lines.

          I would get a B4 quattro and have them both side by side.
          Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

          Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
          Sold ABY-stock

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          • caterpillar
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Jun 2004
            • 2480

            #6
            its a BIG job.... not for all people to do....and not in one week ))

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            • mdz
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Jun 2012
              • 775
              • Country: Latvia

              #7
              Originally posted by andy10v
              need to weld in a captive nut for the rear subframe
              B4s till 1993 already has a thread there too

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              • sergio
                S2Forum Enthusiast
                • Jun 2013
                • 113
                • Country: Portugal

                #8
                Another question.
                The rear diff, subframe, struts, wishbones.... of an RS2 are the same as on a b4 avant quattro?
                Thanks

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                • sergio
                  S2Forum Enthusiast
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 113
                  • Country: Portugal

                  #9
                  Change of plans.
                  I think i´d better try to source an 80 avant quattro for spares to swap all the quattro components to mine. I´m sure it will be plug and play
                  As for the engine and gearbox, will also try to source a 130 PD engine with 6 gearbox, which is easy to come by.
                  But that raises another question: does the 6 gearbox adapt to the quattro linkage system???
                  Once again need your help!
                  Thanks.

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                  • sergio
                    S2Forum Enthusiast
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 113
                    • Country: Portugal

                    #10
                    Found a A4 B5 quattro for parts.
                    I was thinking….using the quattro system and a PD engine (Tdi) what gear box could i use to fit both the quattro system and the engine?

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                    • vag_nutter
                      S2Forum Enthusiast
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 164
                      • Country: New Zealand

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sergio
                      Found a A4 B5 quattro for parts.
                      I was thinking….using the quattro system and a PD engine (Tdi) what gear box could i use to fit both the quattro system and the engine?
                      any 01a (5speed) or 01e (6speed) quattro gearbox. you will want a tdi ratio one.

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                      • david1980
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • May 2014
                        • 1027
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        You asked all this on motorgeek and got quite a response with information in your thread.

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                        • sergio
                          S2Forum Enthusiast
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 113
                          • Country: Portugal

                          #13
                          Originally posted by david1980
                          You asked all this on motorgeek and got quite a response with information in your thread.
                          Yes i know, but i like to listen to different opines/sugestions that´s why i use different forums.

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                          • sergio
                            S2Forum Enthusiast
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 113
                            • Country: Portugal

                            #14
                            Gearbox

                            I have a gearbox with the code HCG 28014 that has a ratio 37:10
                            What would happen if the rear differential had a different ratio, other than 37:10?
                            Would it still work?
                            Thanks!
                            Last edited by sergio; 15 September 2015, 16:24.

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                            • sergio
                              S2Forum Enthusiast
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 113
                              • Country: Portugal

                              #15
                              bump, bump
                              Last edited by sergio; 15 September 2015, 16:25.

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