Has anyone else had this thought?

[newsh]

Im not being extreme, Im sticking to cold facts rather than chinese whisper style myths from people that have no clue about them!

And Denial is that big river in Africa right Dest?

I have spent an absolute fortune on my 3B, easily enough to buy 2 RS4s at today's prices. I also spent 4k on the S2 Avant over the course of 2 years driving and getting it all sorted, 2k to refresh the engine plus the turbo, Miltek, interior swap, servicing etc etc. I've enjoyed these cars though and I'm going to enjoy the RS4 too, when I can get it to handle properly

[prj]

3 or 4 plus a truck is much more fun

That's what I did, and Tomas screamed like a girl.
My wife didn't care.

In Estonia there are almost no four lane roads. So you are used to doing this all the time, if you want to get anywhere faster than 75kph.

[prj]

I was comparing what you get for £10k in each case, not stock vs stock, afterall none of us keep cars 100% stock for long, no matter what the initial ambition is

There's one problem with that thinking.
At least here, where there is no "agreed value" policies.

If some moron crashes into you and writes off your RS4, you get the money back.
If some moron writes off your RS2, you get the money back.
If some moron writes off your tuned S2, you get 3k and get told to be happy about it.

That's why I decided to sell my S6, even though EVERYTHING was done on it.
I put it back to stock and sold it.

[dest]

About overtakings...you don't have to overtake more than one cars in a row ! It's dangerous

3 or 4 plus a truck is much more fun

[Error404]

Obviously, just like an RS2 is a modified S2!
But, as we all know, an RS4 is a factory released car so that arguement isnt really relevant is it

Either compare a stock S2/RS2 to a stock RS4, or both modified, not just one

I was comparing what you get for £10k in each case, not stock vs stock, afterall none of us keep cars 100% stock for long, no matter what the initial ambition is

[prj]

is this to save the box and clutch?

No, it's so it feels smoother.

You don't get full boost until 3k anyway unless you are in a high gear.
That is, if full boost is 1.5 bar

[dest]

is this to save the box and clutch?

Stock box will happily handle 700bhp, clutch will do 500+bhp if you dont launch it stupidly (same for any car with stock clutch)


My S4 ran 500bhp with an RS4 clutch and it never slipped

[Rocco]

My RS4 sounds very nice with one of the boxes removed, unfortunately drone of death at motorway speed, so I will be changing the exhaust.

And yes, it is always nice to drive a 1300kg car with 600hp. I would be a fool to disregard that. I would never like a such car as a daily though.

So Tomas, are you still scared of WOT in the competition? I remember you wetting your pants a little when I was overtaking some cars? "what are you doing???"

The competition weights on papers 13xx kg,so now with rs4 box,20 vt engine,19" wheels and ceramic brakes....it should be pretty the same as any s2 3b...

I am still scared,I find very few places where to do quiet wots....

And yes is brutal

1000000 times thanks again for your work,you will be always welcome to my home

About overtakings...you don't have to overtake more than one cars in a row ! It's dangerous

[Mcstiff]

I'm thinking a built CQ for fun and, eventually, a D2 S8 or 6speed C5 (either converted S6 or Allroad since the US does not get the good avants) for a daily. Eventually I'd like a 20v urQ and a few other things; I need a bigger garage!

[prj]

I personally can't imagine how it is possible to spend so much money on maintaining a B4, as a B5.
I mean maintaining, not tuning it.

Unless you screw up and have to do some things multiple times.

There's so much more gizmos and gadgets everywhere, that there's a million more things that can go wrong.

Maybe if you buy low mileage examples and then sell them on, rather than keeping a single one for a longer time period... but here it is impossible to do this.
We have so few of these, maybe 4-5 in the entire country.

[martinjs]

My car feels so much tighter than any S2/RS2/S4/S6 I've been in...
.

I was referring to type 85's and type 44's.

[djh]

Remapped RS4 is where it's at. Especially when you remove the 77% max throttle restriction until 3000 rpm, it's savage

is this to save the box and clutch?

[dest]

Im not being extreme, Im sticking to cold facts rather than chinese whisper style myths from people that have no clue about them!

[prj]

This is just another one of those classic thread that highlights all the clichéd preconceptions from people that have never had anything to do with the item in question

You are a bit extreme though

Lets face it, old Audi's are a lot better screwed together...fact. I've been in a few A4's and couldnt get out quick enough.

Btw, I have to disagree with this.
My car feels so much tighter than any S2/RS2/S4/S6 I've been in...

Well there is one exception to this.
And that is Lloyd's RS2.

But maybe it has something to do with the fact that the RS4 is screwed together by Quattro Gmbh.

[prj]

Are you remembering how fast is ? And how it sounds ?

My RS4 sounds very nice with one of the boxes removed, unfortunately drone of death at motorway speed, so I will be changing the exhaust.

And yes, it is always nice to drive a 1300kg car with 600hp. I would be a fool to disregard that. I would never like a such car as a daily though.

So Tomas, are you still scared of WOT in the competition? I remember you wetting your pants a little when I was overtaking some cars? "what are you doing???"