Fluidampr Crankshaft Damper - All I5

[rynaqui]

unlike the AAN , the ABY/ADU unit does not require any modifications to the oil pump housing for clearance. Thats because the ABY/ADU unit sits further forward.
You can use your stock crankshaft timing belt sprocket yes. That is unaffected.
the only pulley you are changing is your alternator pulley.
MC/3B/7A - Converting from V-belt to 6-PK Serpentine pulley
ABY/ADU - Converting from 4PK to 6PK serpentine pulley

Great, this explains everything for me. So I will replace my 4PK-890 belt with a 6PK-890 belt and the appropriate pulley. Would you happen to have a part number for the correct pulley to fit my 120A alternator? When will the ABY damper be available for purchase?

Thanks!

[Antsa]

I'm also interested in ABY unit if still available?

[Wizard-of-OD]

I am interested in having one for an ABY unit if there are units still available. Can I ask what modifications will I need to make, if any? Do I still use the stock timing chain sprocket and V belt pulley?

Thanks!

unlike the AAN , the ABY/ADU unit does not require any modifications to the oil pump housing for clearance. Thats because the ABY/ADU unit sits further forward.
You can use your stock crankshaft timing belt sprocket yes. That is unaffected.
the only pulley you are changing is your alternator pulley.
MC/3B/7A - Converting from V-belt to 6-PK Serpentine pulley
ABY/ADU - Converting from 4PK to 6PK serpentine pulley

[rynaqui]

I am interested in having one for an ABY unit if there are units still available. Can I ask what modifications will I need to make, if any? Do I still use the stock timing chain sprocket and V belt pulley?

Thanks!

[Vorsprung durch Technik]

Totally agree with Alex and i take my hat of to you and Wizard of Oz for doing what you do to help the community! There is one big problem with these old Audis and a good percentage of current owners obviously not all as there are many who sink large into their pride and joys. A few years ago they tended to get bought by people who figured out they can get quattro with 0-60 in 6 secs or less for peanuts but can't really afford to look after them other than usual consumables of oil - filters cheap tyres etc. Yep the lure of playing big trumps for peanuts without the will / love to want to put money in looking after them properly but are only to happy to attempt to sell them on for 300% profit and then wonder why their original 25 year old underside isn't worthy of someones hard earned £££££.

Personally i'm hoping someone can come up with a quick rack for the UrS6, i for one want one and would pay for it, it would make an already excellent handler on it's 255/40x17 plus spec guise that bit more fun to drive with quicker steering as that's the only thing letting the car down for me. Anyone? I think Macspring might be up for that too and surely our American fans would be interested.

[Error404]

Fundamentally no one is making I5 parts for a living - you can’t do it. None can run a business on a wing & a prayer. People clamour for parts then most vanish when it comes time to put their money where their mouth it. The same people bitch about availability, then when someone brings a solution they bitch about the price, or they compare to some tin-pot China crap. The majority thinks eBay ***** is the benchmark, not quality and because they find some crap online when they search a part number, without knowing if it works or even fits. Few people have a clue about the time, effort and cost it takes to produce a high quality, engineered product.
Sure, often it takes a long time to bring new parts to market - this is because the guys doing it are busy trying to make their living - on other projects that actually pay.
People making vintage Audi parts are doing it for the love, it’s just a shame most of the people buying don’t give a ****.

[Wizard-of-OD]

A lot of things change in peoples circumstances. Some have been forced to find alternate solutions in order to complete their projects; some have sold their cars. And in my case the direction of my project has changed.

Agreed , however most of the cancellations came after production was finalized i.e. the 13th hour when pricing was finalized i.e. 2 weeks before we started shipping out units...

I too am frustrated. I contacted Issam via email mid part of 2019 wanting to change my order from an AAN to ABY setup; the response I received was to convert my power steering and alternator to accept the AAN serpentine belt.

Only the alternator. Power steering will remain v-belt.

but please do not make the members of this community out to be the bad guys. Yes some are a pain.

Not sure where this is coming from Andrew but I am not making anyone out to be a bad guy. It's unfortunate we are left holding the bag but that's the risk I took. No one else and I am not blaming anyone else.

[ThatGUY]

I have been super patient through this whole process. Being an early supporter, I was extremely excited and thankful that Issam decided to spend time and money to develop a special part for these old cars. I was especially intrigued that this damper would incorporate a swap-able belt drive ring for the accessories of different engine requirements.

I understand your frustration with all the cancellations; it will certainly affect peoples decision to develop parts for these old Audi models in the future. With that being said it has been over 3 years. A lot of things change in peoples circumstances. Some have been forced to find alternate solutions in order to complete their projects; some have sold their cars. And in my case the direction of my project has changed.

I too am frustrated. I contacted Issam via email mid part of 2019 wanting to change my order from an AAN to ABY setup; the response I received was to convert my power steering and alternator to accept the AAN serpentine belt. At this point I am unsure if the design allows for interchangeable belt pulleys. Due to the length of time for production I do not feel out of line asking for a different model. I have purchased from you(Issam) a small handful of times and highly regard your products but please do not make the members of this community out to be the bad guys. Yes some are a pain.

Andrew

[Wizard-of-OD]

First batch of 7A/3B/ABY/ADU Crankshaft pulleys have been dispatched. We are working on them in the order they came in.

[Wizard-of-OD]

I'm willing to sponsor the project and buy another ADU unit if there shall be extras left. Don't want to step on anyone's toes though.

I believe that is Vidar's territory. Will check with him as a few of our distributors across the globe have been grated exclusivity to certain regions. I

[jade]

based on the way the AAN went down i would say yes

Pm me if anything comes up....

[kymi]

I'm willing to sponsor the project and buy another ADU unit if there shall be extras left. Don't want to step on anyone's toes though.

[Wizard-of-OD]

Will there be any ABY/ADU units available to buy ?
Thx

based on the way the AAN went down i would say yes

[jade]

Will there be any ABY/ADU units available to buy ?
Thx

[Wizard-of-OD]

Final update: JANUARY 1ST 2020:

AAN:
To date we manufactured 50 of the AAN hubs and received payment for a total of 7 against 30+ in cancellations (so yes we have over 40 AAN Fluidamprs available). I would say I was bit disappointed the way this panned out but thats usually what happens when dealing with older cars. I have taken alot of heat and been accused of things I would never do to the community. Anyone that asked for a refund happily received it.

annoyance aside , I am not blaming the community in any way shape or form.
The hard work is done and AAN units are now actively available. We are working on 5 prototypes (Thuppu) that will allow a parasite drive either for an impulse wheel or supercharger to be bolted onto the face.

MC/3B/7A/ABY/ADU:
based on what happened with the AAN , I cancelled the MC/3B/7A project entirely. That engineering cost is now a sunk cost. I will not invest $$$ into manufacturing a product only to be left holding the bag. I could only alot for 1 more project and I chose the ABY/ADU since that is more common.

We will only be making an ABY/ADU unit which will be completed on Friday.
Those that pre-paid for a 7A/3B/MC unit you will receive an ABY/ADU unit AND a 6PK alternator pulley. You will be converting your alternator pulley from a steel (rusty af) pulley to an aluminum 6PK billet unit.
This keeps everyone happy .
Any further questions or comments please feel free to send over an email.