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  • newsh
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Aug 2003
    • 16226
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #436
    Originally posted by Ian Simmonds

    The after run pumps become brittle with age, it's basically a washing machine water pump. The inlet outlet pipes collapse with over tightening. That's my experience, if it's confirmed that is the problem, just replace it.

    our S2's failed years ago and 'after run' dumped the entire coolant system over Bombardier Chart Leacon's staff car park..
    They can also go bang and spray hot coolant in your face while you're standing over them looking for the leak..

    S2 Coupe 3B Project


    Ur quattro restoration

    S2 Avant

    Boost is the new rock and roll!
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    • Tractor Dave
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Dec 2017
      • 5986
      • Country: Wales

      #437
      Cheers Ian. I normally replace the pump anyway when doing a full re build. The original looked quite new and tested good so I didn't on this occasion. New Bosch pump ordered this morning.
      Nothelle S2 Avant
      Black Ur project
      Silver Rs2 Project gone
      Ocianic Ur project gone
      S2 Coupe project gone
      Urs6 plus project gone

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      • hashluck
        S2Forum Enthusiast
        • Jan 2020
        • 108
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #438
        Originally posted by Tractor Dave
        Cheers Ian. I normally replace the pump anyway when doing a full re build. The original looked quite new and tested good so I didn't on this occasion. New Bosch pump ordered this morning.
        Do you have part number/source for this pump assumng it is same for ABY S2

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        • Tractor Dave
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Dec 2017
          • 5986
          • Country: Wales

          #439
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          Nothelle S2 Avant
          Black Ur project
          Silver Rs2 Project gone
          Ocianic Ur project gone
          S2 Coupe project gone
          Urs6 plus project gone

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          • Rikki Kitto
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Feb 2010
            • 6276
            • Country: England

            #440
            I heard a rumour that VW Transporters have the same after run pump but much better price

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            • John.
              S2Forum Fiend
              • May 2012
              • 2615
              • Country: Scotland

              #441
              Originally posted by Rikki Kitto
              I heard a rumour that VW Transporters have the same after run pump but much better price
              I heard that a washing machine part can be used ?!

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              • Rikki Kitto
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Feb 2010
                • 6276
                • Country: England

                #442
                Maybe so, these cars are strange sometimes when it comes to sourcing parts

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                • K Simmonds
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 7627
                  • Country: Wales

                  #443
                  Originally posted by Rikki Kitto
                  I heard a rumour that VW Transporters have the same after run pump but much better price
                  The Transporter one is very simalar and is plug and play, however it's an inch so shorter so will only fit properly in the one rubber mount. I used one on my 3B as it was half the price from TPS and I couldn't be bothered to send it back.
                  1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                  1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                  1994 MTM RS2.
                  1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                  2000 B5 TQS.

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                  • K Simmonds
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 7627
                    • Country: Wales

                    #444
                    Originally posted by John.

                    I heard that a washing machine part can be used ?!
                    It is actually a washing machine water pump or at least based on one made by Bosch, the washing machine version I've seen is all white platic as opposed to black but otherwise the same, I have no idea if the black plastic is in someway stronger for auomotive use or just a different production run.
                    1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                    1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                    1994 MTM RS2.
                    1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                    2000 B5 TQS.

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                    • John.
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • May 2012
                      • 2615
                      • Country: Scotland

                      #445
                      Originally posted by K Simmonds

                      It is actually a washing machine water pump or at least based on one made by Bosch, the washing machine version I've seen is all white platic as opposed to black but otherwise the same, I have no idea if the black plastic is in someway stronger for auomotive use or just a different production run.
                      The heat cycles are going to be a bit more "extreme" compared to a washing machine, I'd happily fit a Transporter one .

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                      • Tractor Dave
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 5986
                        • Country: Wales

                        #446
                        I've ordered the Bosch pump that fits many vag cars. I will post a pic when fitting. From memory it is not plug and play and as Kit says the mount has to be adjusted as it's slightly shorter.
                        Nothelle S2 Avant
                        Black Ur project
                        Silver Rs2 Project gone
                        Ocianic Ur project gone
                        S2 Coupe project gone
                        Urs6 plus project gone

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                        • Tractor Dave
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Dec 2017
                          • 5986
                          • Country: Wales

                          #447
                          The Bosch pump arrived.


                          But I won't be fitting it just yet.

                          I still have poor starting and rough running until it warms up a bit. I've also noticed an unusual amount of steam from the exhaust each cold start. Unfortunately, I know what this usually means. Sad face. Had it before on an Audi 80 1.8.
                          So

                          No easy way to swallow this. Cylinder 4 and 5 are loosing pressure.
                          I've just checked my bill from the engineering place and no where does it say they tested the head. My fault really for not asking. I just assumed they had.
                          So just got to bite the bullet and get on with it.


                          They are closed tomorrow but I recon I will have it there first thing Monday morning.
                          My trip to Germany in May is looking doubtful. Very sad face.


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                          Nothelle S2 Avant
                          Black Ur project
                          Silver Rs2 Project gone
                          Ocianic Ur project gone
                          S2 Coupe project gone
                          Urs6 plus project gone

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                          • K Simmonds
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 7627
                            • Country: Wales

                            #448
                            That a bit of a bummer, are you sure the head is leaking as opposed to the rings not being quite bedded in? I'd be tempted to give it another good heat cycle and take the revs up to at least 5K for a few mins before pulling the head.

                            S2 head's are pretty resilient to cracks around the spark plug holes and they don't normally leak.

                            Are the leaking cylinders the ones you had to find replacement pistons for?

                            I think I'd still go to Germany in my Nothelle if I was you, a break would be welcome, you've done well to get as far as you have with the RS2.
                            1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                            1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                            1994 MTM RS2.
                            1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                            2000 B5 TQS.

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                            • Tractor Dave
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Dec 2017
                              • 5986
                              • Country: Wales

                              #449
                              Cheers Kit. Good advice. I'm not 100% sure whats going on. I'm going to remove the rocker cover and test again and try see what's happening. Cylinders 1-3 have good compression. Only one piston was replaced and it was like for like.
                              The purpose of the trip was to give the Rs2 a run and take it back to it's birthplace.
                              Nothelle S2 Avant
                              Black Ur project
                              Silver Rs2 Project gone
                              Ocianic Ur project gone
                              S2 Coupe project gone
                              Urs6 plus project gone

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                              • Pibbow
                                S2Forum Fanatic
                                • Jul 2022
                                • 70
                                • Home: England Current: Scotland

                                #450
                                Sorry to hear this David. I feel our pain but at least you have an idea of the problem and the knowledge to fix it!

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