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  • G60Rallye
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Dec 2006
    • 1321
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #496
    Plenty of movement in them mate. I think he meant too small diameter. What size are you running James?

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    • terrybullwon
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Mar 2006
      • 8782
      • Country: England

      #497
      Good, they just look a little tight i am going -16 -12
      Chef

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      • nervas
        S2Forum Addict
        • Jun 2004
        • 357
        • Country: Lithuania

        #498
        FIA is not allowing fuel lines to go in the cabin, also like water lines. and this makes sence, because oil temp there will be ~110-130C ... so it is not safe for the driver. If putting oil tank to the trunk is is better to do with an16
        Xtra Racing

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        • G60Rallye
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Dec 2006
          • 1321
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #499
          Interesting stuff this. Our msa says its fine for fuel lines in the car for now. They are PFTE lined so no horrible fuel vapour will get into the cabin.

          I will have to think about the oil lines now, interesting to hear some are using -16 some -12.

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          • terrybullwon
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Mar 2006
            • 8782
            • Country: England

            #500
            Originally posted by G60Rallye
            Interesting stuff this. Our msa says its fine for fuel lines in the car for now. They are PFTE lined so no horrible fuel vapour will get into the cabin.

            I will have to think about the oil lines now, interesting to hear some are using -16 some -12.
            Yeah MSA is fine with oil, fuel and water through the cockpit.

            -16 will help with any air, but like James says hes using -12 and i know the Roger clarke car is on -12 as i had a good look around
            Chef

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            • terrybullwon
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2006
              • 8782
              • Country: England

              #501
              Also where are you feeding the turbo from mate?
              Chef

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              • G60Rallye
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Dec 2006
                • 1321
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #502
                I will give the -12 a go then and see how it goes, I am not using as many scavanges as some people are.

                The turbo is fed from where the oil filter housing used to be.

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                • Jonnybravo
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 2051
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #503
                  Originally posted by terrybullwon
                  Yeah MSA is fine with oil, fuel and water through the cockpit.

                  -16 will help with any air, but like James says hes using -12 and i know the Roger clarke car is on -12 as i had a good look around


                  RS200's were the same iirc except they scavenge off the turbo as well I believe.

                  Interesting thing about dry sumps is the engine breather setup, some claim its best to seal the engine, others don't. Mine breathes off the cam cover to the tank and then out of the dry sump tank into another catch tank housed in the wheelarch, I notice from just looking for the RS200 pics that they were done the same.

                  How did you plan to do the breather on this engine ? and James how have you done yours ?

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                  • terrybullwon
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 8782
                    • Country: England

                    #504
                    I am sealed, and then the tank in the rear has two -12 feeds that go and vent in the rear wheel arch with some K&N filters
                    Chef

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                    • JP
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 1858
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #505
                      I'll check with karl and see what lines he's running keeping in mind the tank is next to the engine.

                      As for breather system dependant on whether it is a 3 or 4 stage pump. If 3 then the rocker cover and block want to vent to atmosphere. If a 4 stg pump then you can seal the system to create a vacuum in the crankcase.

                      fit a 3stg pump to a sealed system and crankcase pressure will build up so high at idle the turbo can't drain its oil properly resulting in damage to the turbo oil seals.
                      UrS6 Stroker + HTA3586 =

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                      • my2000apb
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 637
                        • Country: United States

                        #506
                        Originally posted by G60Rallye
                        Yes I am going to be running the bias on both. I dont have much faith in the compbrake pedal box though hence I added the inline one.
                        what dont you like about the compbrake box?
                        BEAST '90 CQ 24v VRT / O1E / v8 rear, HOLSET SUPER 40 http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtop...1&t=193#p37887
                        DD '86 4kq BLAZE, swapping aba/16vT and O1E http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtop...1&t=201#p38264

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                        • Jonnybravo
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 2051
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #507
                          Originally posted by RWD19T
                          I'll check with karl and see what lines he's running keeping in mind the tank is next to the engine.

                          As for breather system dependant on whether it is a 3 or 4 stage pump. If 3 then the rocker cover and block want to vent to atmosphere. If a 4 stg pump then you can seal the system to create a vacuum in the crankcase.

                          fit a 3stg pump to a sealed system and crankcase pressure will build up so high at idle the turbo can't drain its oil properly resulting in damage to the turbo oil seals.
                          Good info there

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                          • G60Rallye
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 1321
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #508
                            Originally posted by my2000apb
                            what dont you like about the compbrake box?
                            You get what you pay for I suppose, its just not that nice. In the future I am going to swap onto an AP or Tilton floor mounted one.

                            As for the dry sump stuff we seem to have collected a lot of good information. Interesting to hear that some cars are using -12 on the lines. I will give it a go and swap onto -16 if its not working out.

                            As for the crankcase pressure I am going to hook up a pressure gauge to see whats happening. If the crankcase goes back into vacume its going to pull all the crap back in from the catch tank? I do have a one way valve with the pace kit so it can let pressure out but not pull anything back in.

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                            • Le S2 Audi
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 3805
                              • Home: Scotland Current: England

                              #509
                              This thread just gets better....

                              Most of the technical stuff is way over my head - but just have to keep reading it!!

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                              New S2 - S8 & RS2 -RS6 Keyrings

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                              • JP
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 1858
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #510
                                Vacuum in the crankcase is good, less resistance to the reciprocating components = better throttle response and more hp.
                                UrS6 Stroker + HTA3586 =

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